This question is similar to Question No. 80. I am surprised they were not grouped because they are very similar. I want to ask the Minister about the number of employers who are employing people with the support of the wage subsidy scheme. There are three strands to the scheme. I asked about strand 1 and strand 2 and I am not sure why I left out strand 3 but if the Minister has that information, it would be welcome as well.

On a point of order, there was a lot of consternation and an awful lot of Dáil time was given over to Deputies in the Lowry group who insisted on having recognition. They got it and now they have a question on the Order Paper but they have not turned up to take it. I want that to be recorded because there was a lot of chat and consternation in the House, as the Minister knows. At the end of it, we see that after all of their kicking up and kicking off, they have not turned up to take their slots. This is worth recording.

I put my question.

Gabhaim buíochas leis an Teachta as an cheist seo. On the wage subsidy scheme, employers face a risk when hiring any new worker, including in the context of whether the worker has the ability to do the job. Many employers perceive the risk as greater when a person under consideration has a disability, even where that person is highly qualified and able to do the job. It is important that we seek to neutralise this perceived risk to level the playing field faced by a person with a disability when he or she is competing for employment against other jobseekers. That is what the wage subsidy scheme seeks to do - to assist to level this playing field.

To do this, the scheme incentivises and supports employers to hire people with a disability by providing a subsidy to reduce ongoing salary costs. The rate of subsidy varies with the number of people with disabilities employed under the scheme, from €6.30 per hour when an employer hires one worker with a disability, increasing by 10% when the number employed is three or more and reaching a maximum of €9.45 per hour, when the number of people with a disability in employment with the employer exceeds 22. Employers who employ 25 or more people with a disability will also benefit from a €30,000 per year grant towards the cost of employing an employment assistance officer. Employers can also avail of a range of supports under the work and access scheme, including support with the cost of workplace adaptations.

As of March 2025, 1,501 employers partaking of the wage subsidy scheme and 2,464 people with disabilities were supported through the scheme. In August 2024, my Department published a review of the wage subsidy scheme. The review made six recommendations, including to reduce the minimum required hours of the scheme, to regularly review the subsidy rate and to expand the scheme to employers outside of the private sector. These recommended changes have been made to the scheme. It is hoped they will make the scheme more accessible and flexible for people with disabilities and their employers. We will launch an information campaign this month to highlight the expanded scope of the scheme and to promote a greater level of awareness and take-up among employers.

The review is very welcome, because those figures are quite low. I thought there might have been greater uptake of the scheme by companies. There is great capacity in the scheme to increase employment opportunities for people with disabilities and enhance the workplace by increasing diversity and making it more accessible. I welcome the review and the fact it has suggested changes that, hopefully, will increase awareness of the scheme and bring in new companies that might be inclined to enter the scheme and hire people with disabilities.

I will also mention the employability projects throughout the country. There is a very active one in Galway, which works with a lot of different companies making sure they are aware that they can avail of the scheme and helping people with disabilities to find employment. I welcome the review. I note there has been no increase in the level of subsidy available to companies since January 2022. I ask for that to be looked at in light of budgets 2025 and 2026.

I endorse the Deputy's remarks on employability and Work West. A number of groups in this space are doing very important work. We will launch the reviewed and renewed scheme next week. We will seek to work with employers' organisations and various groups throughout the country to promote the scheme and the benefits for an employer in having somebody with a disability, who will bring that life experience, on his or her team. I recommend colleagues on all sides look at our Department's promotional work and videos on this, which highlight some of the companies throughout the country that do this and its value both to the employer and, most importantly, the person with a disability.

I commend groups such as Open Doors that are working very hard to promote the scheme, to encourage employers to address what, in many cases, are genuine concerns but in other cases are issues that can be deal with, and to encourage a greater take-up of the scheme. I am not happy with the take-up of the scheme and want to see it expanded.

The subsidy rate is a budgetary issue. We will engage with the Minister for public expenditure on that in the context of budget 2026.

I thank the Minister for his response and his openness to looking at the subsidy that is available. Perhaps there will be an opportunity in the next budget to increase the subsidy. I look forward to the information campaign around the scheme. I am sure the Minister will share that with all his colleagues in the House. We will be available. I agree with him that the opportunity for employers to employ people with a disability increases diversity in the workplace, which is beneficial for companies and employees alike. I compliment the Minister on the work in this area. It is to be hoped it will lead to an increased number of companies taking up the scheme and people with disabilities entering the workplace.

I will go back to Deputy James O'Connor for his question.

Will the Department of Social Protection remove the inconsistencies and anomalies in the current jobseeker's allowance scheme that discourage people from taking up employment. Will he give some further information on that? It is an important issue. It is something we have previously discussed. I would appreciate it if the Minister could advise the House on whether his Department plans any moves on this.

I thank the Deputy for his question. The programme for Government contains a commitment to introduce a new working-age payment to simplify and address those inconsistencies in payment arrangements, which face people who return to work from a jobseeker's payment. An outline of the proposed approach was published as part of the consultation process on the introduction of a new pay-related benefit. I am particularly pleased to say that was introduced at the start of April. I acknowledge the considerable work of the Department of Social Protection in getting that over the line.

We are proceeding to develop a more detailed consultation process on the working-age payment model. I will launch this consultation later this year. In the meantime, a number of arrangements are in place to incentivise and encourage people in receipt of the jobseeker's allowance scheme to take up work or to engage in training and development programmes to prepare for work. First, a person in receipt of jobseeker's allowance is allowed to work for up to three days per week and continue to receive a partial payment. The first €20 of earnings per day is disregarded with the balance of income assessed at 60%. A person can also retain secondary benefits, such as fuel allowance, subject to meeting the relevant means test. Second, under the back to work family dividend scheme, people taking up full-time employment retain the child support element of their payment for two years. The first year is paid at the full rate and the second year is paid at 50%, which means that they receive an in-work welfare payment to supplement employment earnings. Third, people in receipt of jobseeker's allowance can opt to return to education and training, or to move into self-employment, and continue to receive a welfare payment. For the full duration of their training or education course, they receive the full rate of payment. If they take up self-employment, they receive a full payment rate for the first year and 75% for the second year.

Jobseekers who take up a work placement programme, community employment or Tús placements, also receive an increase in their payment rate and can continue to receive any secondary benefits. In addition, the Department supports employment transitions through the part-time job incentive scheme, which facilitates part-time employment for up to 24 hours per week, and through the working family payment.

I appreciate the response. This is an important issue that has been raised by the Citizens Information Board. It was highlighted that the working-age payments scheme should be based on the working family payment model, whereby a person receives a payment based on a percentage of the difference between his or her income and the specified threshold for his or her family type. However, the board also pointed out how crucial and important the administration of the working-age payment is, given the difficulties regularly reported by CIS clients. I appreciate the information the Minister brought before the House. It is important that clarification is brought. It is a matter we discussed previously. This comes up in conversations in my constituency office, as it does for other Deputies. I look forward to working with the Minister on issues around this and other employment matters that may come up before the relevant Oireachtas committees, including the employment committee. If he can give further information in his supplementary response, I would appreciate it.

Certain groups of people, including seasonal workers and school caretakers, in particular, are excluded from pay-related jobseeker's benefits and allowances. Seasonal workers are every bit as unemployed when they are not working; it is just that they are unemployed for a specific period. Will the Minister give some consideration to including those people, who we rely on and lean on in the seasons when they work? It is not their fault they do not have work. The Minister knows that well. They are available for work but it is very tough to find work. School principals and teachers will tell you these workers are very much necessary and needed. They like that continuity of service but these workers feel very aggrieved, and rightly so, that they have been excluded from the programme.

If Deputy O'Reilly would like to drop me a line on that, I will follow up on it. I know more than most the value of school caretakers, particularly to the teachers.

I congratulate Deputy O'Connor on his appointment as Chairman of the employment and enterprise committee. I look forward to working with him. In that context, we need to ensure that the social protection system can be worker friendly. Welfare traps which are inhibiting people from taking up work need to be removed. For instance, if a person on jobseeker's allowance receives an offer of part-time work, they can end up worse off financially if their hours are spread over the entire week rather than concentrated over three days or less. That is an anomaly I want to address.

As stated, we will be introducing a working-age payment to remove inconsistencies and anomalies in the current jobseeker's payments that are discouraging people from taking up employment. One of the proposed models is to change the basis of the current payment structure in order that a person's payment will be based on a percentage of the difference between their income and a specified threshold for the family type. The purpose of that change would be to take advantage of real-time PAYE information and to move from the days-of-work approach to an income-based approach. That would mean that a person should always be better off by taking up employment. However, I will be publishing draft proposals for full consultation with stakeholders and Oireachtas committees before we agree any final design of what a working-age payment might look like.

The programme for Government states that we must ensure the social protection system is work friendly and that welfare traps which inhibit people from taking up work are removed. At present, a person on jobseeker's allowance who receives an offer of part-time work may actually end up worse off financially if their hours are spread across the whole working week rather than being concentrated over three days or less. This could easily be addressed with some focus, and I appreciate the comments the Minister has made. I hope we can work on it together. I just wanted to raise the issue because I thought it was important. I appreciate the Department's response that this will be worked on in the coming weeks and months.

We will absolutely engage across the House on proposals in this space. People are being disincentivised from moving from the welfare system into work because of anomalies that should no longer exist. With everybody's input, we can do that, hopefully by the end of this year.

I welcome the Minister's comments on the nutritional review of the school meals programme. I acknowledge and commend the great work of the companies right across the country, including in Mayo, in delivering school meals. Companies like Steak Out catering, for example, are delivering high-quality nutritional meals to hundreds of children across east and south Mayo, in particular.

My question concerns the one-parent family payment and a half-rate carer's allowance. There are many concerns over these very vulnerable families. Given that this payment is due to end at the end of the year, are there any plans for a transitional payment to protect these families during what will be very difficult time?

I thank the Deputy for his question. I take it that it concerns people in receipt of the one-parent family allowance, domiciliary care allowance and the half-rate carer's allowance in respect of a child who is turning 16 this year. Of the approximately 10,200 people currently in receipt of both the one-parent family payment and half-rate carer's allowance, approximately 390 will cease being in this position during 2025 due to the age of their youngest child. However, it is important to note that at age 16, the person for whom the half-rate carer's allowance or domiciliary care allowance was being paid becomes eligible to apply for the disability allowance in their own right. This payment rate is €244 per week compared with €360 per month for domiciliary care allowance, meaning that payments into the household will increase by over €8,400 a year. The person formerly in receipt of the one-parent family payment can move to the jobseeker’s allowance payment, which is paid at the same rate as the one-parent family payment, or, alternatively, where such a person is providing full-time care, they can apply for full-rate carer's allowance. In the latter case, the person can work 18.5 hours a week and retain the payment.

It is not necessarily the case that the family of a child who has an ongoing disability which requires their parent to provide full-time care will inevitably experience a reduction in payment. However, if there are cases where that is happening, I will certainly work with the Deputy to address that.

I should also highlight a number of changes that have been made to assist lone-parent families in recent budgets. Within the context of the programme for Government, we are looking at a range of reviews of supports for lone-parent families. We are currently preparing a work plan to implement that commitment.

I am sure the Minister will acknowledge that lone parents are vulnerable and have a difficult time. According to the ESRI, there is a huge risk of economic vulnerability. We should do everything we can. I will certainly work with him on any of those families who may be at risk and who fall in that gap in terms of the payment. I welcome what the Minister said to Deputy O'Reilly on child maintenance and the means test. The programme for Government commits to supporting lone parents and I look forward to working with the Minister to ensure that supports continue. I hope we can work with the Minister to ensure that no family will be taken off the lone parents support at the end of the year.

I have already met with a number of groups in this space pointing out many anomalies in the system we need to address to assist lone parents. As the Deputy said, it is a very challenging role. I have engaged with the groups and unfortunately it seems there are systems that are not helping them. I am determined to address those anomalies to make sure that there is support in place for lone parents who do such an important job right throughout the country.

Tá fhios againn go mothaíonn na cúramóirí baile nach bhfuil mórán tacaíocht á fháil acu ach amháin an liúntas cúramóra, agus fiú ansin tá means test i gceist. Cén uair a bheidh an Aire ag fáil réidh leis an tástáil achmhainne? Tá riachtanas ann fáil réidh leis.

Gabhaim buíochas leis an Teachta as an gceist a chur. Táimid ag iarraidh obair i dteannta cúramóirí chun iad a sheoladh. Tá brón orm nach bhfuil freagra agam as Gaeilge.

Tá sé ceart go leor, fuair mé an cheist i mBéarla.

In future, I will make sure we have the answers as Gaeilge for the Deputy.

We are very aware of the key role that family carers play. The main income supports to carers provided by my Department are carer’s allowance, carer’s benefit, domiciliary care allowance and the carer’s support grant, which will account for over €1.9 billion of my Department's budget in 2025. The carer’s allowance is the main scheme by which my Department provides income support to carers. There are currently 99,256 people in receipt of carer's allowance, which accounts for €1.24 billion of my Department's budget.

In common with other social welfare payments, the primary objective of the carer’s allowance payment is to provide an income support to people who experience a contingency that means that their capacity to earn an income from employment is significantly reduced. Carer’s allowance is means-tested and does not require any social insurance contributions. Means tests are used within the social welfare system to target the support to those most in need in a manner that is progressive in terms of income distribution.

The income disregards for carers are already the most generous in the social welfare system and are being further improved. This July the weekly income disregard will increase further from €450 to €625 for a single person, and from €900 to €1,250 for carers with a spouse or partner. This means that a carer in a two-adult household with an income of approximately €69,000 will still retain their full carer's payment and even with an income of €97,000 will retain a partial payment.

As the Deputy said, the programme for Government commits to continue this process. We will significantly increase the income disregards for carer’s allowance in each budget with a view to ultimately phasing out the means test during the lifetime of the Government.

I thank the Minister. It is more than a year since the carer's referendum was overwhelmingly rejected. Almost 74% of those who voted said "No". The big issue that came up was the abolition of the means test on foot of the figure the Minister referred to of more than 99,000. Of course, many other carers get absolutely nothing. There are some suggestions that the figure in this regard is as high as 500,000. Considering this as an income support is the completely wrong way to look at it. We should look at it in terms of the fact that society cannot function without carers. We need to put an economic value, as well as a psychological and carer's value, on that work because we cannot talk about a thriving economy if we do not have carers.

I am a little disappointed that a year on from the referendum, the Minister has indicated that he will work towards the abolition of the means test during the lifetime of the Government. That could be almost five years from now. He is failing utterly to recognise the value of the work done by carers.

I assure the Deputy that we absolutely value the work of carers. That has been shown by the work done on the income disregards, which will take effect this July, in recent years and the introduction of the long-term carer's contribution scheme in January 2024. Under that scheme, a person who has been a full-time carer for an incapacitated dependent for at least 20 years, or 1,040 weeks, can get long-term carer's contributions to cover gaps in their contribution record. This will allow them to qualify for a contributory State pension. That is the first time this has happened.

The carer's benefit payment has been extended to the self-employed. We have also introduced and increased the carer's support grant to €2,000, the highest rate that payment has ever been. I have already gone through the income disregards which will increase from €450 to €625 for a single person and from €900 to €1250 for a carer with a spouse or partner. Since June 2022, a cumulative increase in the disregard is €292.50 for a single carer and €585 for a carer who is part of a couple. That shows a direction of travel on this. I am determined to continue the work of my predecessor, Heather Humphreys, in this regard.

I do not doubt the bona fides of the Minister, but the referendum was overwhelmingly rejected because of the false narrative that was played out, hypocrisy and a failure to recognise that we cannot function as a society without carers, the vast majority of whom are women and are not paid. We need to recognise that. While I welcome the changes that have been made, which are positive, it is an utter and abject failure to recognise that we need to value the work of carers in a manner that is realistic and put a value on it.

I understand that an interdepartmental committee was established and was supposed to report to the Minister. The Minister for Social Protection was to receive a report from the working group by quarter 3 of last year. As of 27 February, the Minister had not received the report. Has that work been concluded? Is the report somewhere? Have I missed it?

The report on----

An interdepartmental committee was set up on this.

On carers?

On this.

On carers.

I ask the Minister to clarify the position for me.

I will clarify it for the Deputy after the debate. We are looking at everything. I will not accept the contention that we do not value carers. We absolutely do value them. We have shown through a number of initiatives in recent years that we do so. There have been initiatives in successive budgets and contributions around income disregards and the carer's support payment. We have introduced insurable credits. That shows that people who have cared over many years can now get a contributory State pension, something they could not do before the introduction of that measure.

I will revert to the Deputy on the report. We had engagement with carers' organisations yesterday on their agendas, not just in the social protection space but across other Departments. We will work with colleagues across Government on carers to improve their lives. I value each and every one of them, not just for the what they are doing for the State but for communities around the country, their families and the people they care for. While I have the privilege of being a Minister for Social Protection, I will work to ensure that our Department does everything it can to protect and engage with carers. We will have direct engagement with carers from all over the country in the carers forum during May.

I understand there was a review of the carer's allowance.

I will come back to the Deputy on that.

My concern in regard to carer's allowance is the fact that the population is aging. Thankfully, people are living longer. The last census showed 832,000 people aged over 65 living in the country. Within the next four years, that figure will reach 1 million. The cost of nursing home care is at least €1,100 per person per week. Regarding long-term planning for the carer's allowance, it is important that we plan not just for today or tomorrow but for the next five to ten years. How proactive is the Department in looking at that plan and the number of people who will require care? The figure will increase dramatically over the next five to ten years.

The Deputy raises a very important point. My Department's focus is on improving the income supports that are being made available to carers and improving the support that we as a Department can give to them. In terms of our aging population, we have to work with our colleagues in the Department of Health to ensure that we align all of our plans in this space. That is something I am more than happy to work on with the Minister for Health, Deputy Carroll MacNeill, in terms of a shared approach by both Departments. That would be a very worthy endeavour.

In our Department, we have carer's information. The Department of Health has information on needs, as the Deputy will know from his time in that Department, in terms of the health needs of the aging population and what will need. It would be very beneficial for both of us to work together in this space.

Will the Minister outline the range of back-to-work supports available for jobseekers in County Offaly and the measures that are being taken to improve the uptake of and access to schemes such as the back-to-work enterprise allowance and the part-time job incentive?

I thank Deputy McCormack. Our national employment strategy, Pathways to Work, sets out the Government’s approach to supporting jobseekers to prepare for, access and take up employment opportunities. In line with this strategy, my Department’s Intreo employment services throughout the country engage with jobseekers to support them to find work. The Government has provided in excess of €657 million for employment supports in 2025.

A total of 2,930 people in Offaly were on the live register in March 2025. Intreo staff in Tullamore and Edenderry, together with the Department's service partners, Intreo partners, offer an individualised employment service to these customers. The externally contracted employment service provision provides the Department with additional support capacity to meet current and future needs. These externally contracted services are provided through offices in Tullamore, Edenderry and Birr. As the Deputy will be aware, one of the largest Intreo partner providers is headquartered just across the county border in Roscrea.

Employment personal advisors engage with jobseekers on a one-to-one basis to develop a personal progression plan, which will identify steps the jobseeker must take to support them to progress to sustainable employment. There is a range of supports on offer, including further education, training and upskilling options, financial support such as the training and support grant and programmes like the work placement experience programme, community employment and Tús.

The Department works closely with employers to help them fill vacancies and to place unemployed jobseekers and other welfare recipients, including people with disabilities, into these vacancies. In Offaly, 14 jobseeker events took place during 2024, ranging from recruitment events to information sessions and to date in 2025, five events have taken place, including two recruitment events for healthcare and construction. The Intreo teams in Tullamore and Edenderry are available to assist customers in their transition to employment and will assess the appropriate support having regard to the individual’s skills, education and employment opportunities. I want to take this opportunity to thank the staff in my Department for their ongoing work in Offaly. I trust this clarifies the position for the Deputy.

I thank the Minister for his response. While the supports outlined are welcome, we need to recognise that getting back to work is about more than just income. Employment plays a vital role in improving mental health, giving people a sense of identity, routine and purpose.

It also sets a powerful example for children and others in the community, showing that work pays, that ambition is valued and that the opportunity is real. For many in County Offaly and beyond, the move from welfare into employment still seems like a risk. The poverty trap is real. When people feel it will cost them more to take up a job than to stay on social supports, something is fundamentally wrong. We need to create genuine incentives to work, with supports that are accessible, clearly communicated and designed to reward effort rather than punish transition. Will the Minister confirm whether his Department is reviewing the income thresholds and tapering of supports to ensure that work always pays and that the move from welfare to wages is a step up and not a step back?

Absolutely. We had a discussion on a previous question, asked by Deputy James O'Connor, about the introduction of the commitment in the programme for Government to introducing a working age payment. That is important to ensure that people who transition from a welfare support payment to work are not worse off. I will be focused on that. As I said, we will publish a number of potential models and look for feedback over the coming months. Regarding the transition, working through the Intreo offices and our Intreo partners, we want people to get the services of an employment personal adviser or a job coach. That person will work with a jobseeker on a one-to-one, confidential basis to encourage, support and assist him or her in securing employment and to develop an agreed personal progression plan which is based on a person's needs and skills that he or she has or may need to adjust or improve to become job ready. It will support jobseekers with curriculum vitae and interview preparation. It provides access routes to work experience and employment opportunities. Our Intreo partners provide a service to employers by promoting the Department's schemes and supports and assist employers with filling vacancies. They also provide access routes to education and training where skill gaps which have been identified can be fulfilled locally within Offaly or in the region.

I thank the Minister for his constructive response and his clear understanding of the challenges people face in making that transition into employment. It is encouraging to hear that the Department is actively reviewing how supports can be better structured. We know that work brings more than just a wage. It brings confidence, self-worth and a sense of purpose for families and communities in Offaly and elsewhere. That matters deeply. The Minister is right to focus on ensuring that supports do not fall off a cliff when someone takes up work. A well-managed, tapering system and clear communication are key to giving people confidence to take that next step. I ask the Minister to consider how pilot programmes or enhanced outreach in rural counties might support that transition, further making sure that every person who wants the work feels that the system is behind them.

Absolutely. As I said to Deputy O'Connor earlier, we want to ensure that the social protection system is work-friendly and the welfare traps which inhibit people from taking up work are removed. I highlighted earlier that if a person on jobseeker's payment receives an offer of part-time work, he or she can end up worse off financially if his or her hours are spread over the whole working week rather than concentrated in three days or less. That is an anomaly I want to address. A proposed potential model of a working age payment would change the basis of the current payment structure so that a person's payment would be based on a percentage of the difference between their income and a specified threshold for the family type. The purpose of that proposed change would be to take advantage of real-time PAYE information, to move away from the days of a work approach to an income-based approach. That will ensure that a person will always be better off taking up employment. As I said, I want to publish draft proposals which will allow for a full consultation with all stakeholders, including the Oireachtas. I congratulate the Deputy on his appointment to the Oireachtas committee on social protection, rural and community development in advance of any final agreement on the working age payment.

I ask the Minister for Social Protection to confirm that his Department will be the lead for the introduction of a permanent annual cost of disability support payment and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Gabhaim buíochas leis an Teachta as an cheist. The Indecon report on the cost of disability, commissioned and funded by my Department, found that the extra costs of disability are due to a number of factors, including higher costs of healthcare, transport, education, housing and other services that arise because of a higher level of dependence on these services by people with disabilities. In that context, the report noted that addressing these costs was not simply a matter of a higher welfare payment but would need to incorporate improvements in the delivery of and access to these services and others.

The Government, under the Minister, Deputy Foley, has prioritised the development of a new national disability strategy, a cross-governmental strategy that will have a focus on improving access to services and bringing down the extra costs I referred to. Alongside this, in the programme for Government, we have committed to introducing a permanent annual cost of disability support payment. That annual cost of disability support payment will build on progress made over the last number of years, where we took steps to recognise the additional costs associated with disability. In the last three budgets, we brought forward an extensive range of cost-of-living support measures to support people with disabilities and their families. Building on that, progress my Department will now lead on the introduction of an annual cost-of-disability payment, as committed to in the programme for Government. We are currently examining the best way of delivering on this commitment within the overall budgetary context. The Deputy can be assured that we will prioritise this payment in budget discussions with our colleague, the Minister for public expenditure, Deputy Jack Chambers.

I am delighted to hear that. It is a welcome commitment in the programme for Government. Those who are living with a disability, as the Minister rightly says, have many additional challenges, including healthcare, transport costs and other challenges. The least we can do is to look to support them where we can. Those living with a disability and their representative organisations will be happy with progress in this area. I look forward to hearing of further progress in due course on negotiations about the annual budget. I am more than happy to support the Minister in any way I can.

I thank the Deputy. Since the Government was elected, we have prioritised the Cabinet committee on disability, which is chaired by the Taoiseach and meets monthly. It is addressing a range of issues, including income, but also services and supports. We had a discussion with Deputy John Connolly earlier about the wage subsidy scheme to assist employers and encourage them to employ people with a disability. We will be relaunching the reformed wage subsidy scheme next week and giving people information. In our Department, we are in the early stages of the early engagement process, which proactively seeks to assist disabled people who wish to return to work and to give them supports through specially trained Intreo staff. All engagement on this is on a voluntary basis. Some 3,000 referrals have been made through the early engagement process for further education or employment supports. We have also, as referred to earlier, launched the WorkAbility programme, which is co-financed with the EU employment, inclusion, skills and training programme. In 2024, more than 1,400 people engaged in projects supported by WorkAbility. That gives a sense of the work under way across the country. However, we have much more to do. I have determined that my Department will do its part. Other Departments need to do so too. That is why the Government is focused on a new national disability strategy.

I ask the Minister if an examination of improvements to key ancillary benefits, such as the fuel allowance, household benefits package and living alone allowance, to support vulnerable groups has occurred as part of the programme for Government. If not, when is this examination to occur? Will the Minister make a statement on the better?

I thank the Deputy for his question. As he knows and referred to, the programme for Government has committed to protect core welfare rates while ensuring that available resources are targeted at vulnerable groups. The programme for Government includes a commitment to examine key ancillary benefits such as the fuel allowance, household benefits package and living alone allowance to support vulnerable groups. This is an ongoing activity as part of my Department's budget planning each year. For example, there have been a number of expansions under recent budgets to the fuel allowance payment which will make it more available to vulnerable cohorts. In January 2023, enhanced fuel allowance measures for people aged 70 and over were introduced. In budget 2025, these enhanced fuel measures were extended to all those aged 66 or older. These measures include a new means threshold of €524 for a single person and €1,048 for a couple.

In addition, the amount of capital disregarded in the means test for fuel allowance was increased from €20,000 to €50,000. Savings of more than €50,000 are assessed on a proportionate basis only.

Other measures include the weekly means threshold for those aged under 70 has increased by €80 to €200 above the appropriate rate of contributory State pension. Disablement benefit and half-rate carer's allowance payments are now disregarded when assessing means for fuel allowance purposes. Disablement benefit no longer disbars a household from receiving the fuel allowance payment. Budget 2025 has also allowed for carer's allowance to be considered a qualifying payment for fuel allowance since last January.

As part of the budget planning process, I will continue to consider any improvements that can be made to ensure these benefits are continued in a targeted manner so that the vulnerable people who need them are getting the support. As the Deputy will be more than aware, any future decisions will have to take account of the availability of financial resources.

I mentioned the growing population and people living longer, but there is the additional problem of people living alone, especially in rural areas. As the Minister will know, having come from a rural constituency, transport costs for someone living alone in a rural area is a matter we have not focused enough on and we need to look at. The cost of getting from A to B, be it ten miles, 15 miles or 20 miles, in a rural area is more expensive. This is one matter we should be considering in terms of the living alone allowance.

Where people look after themselves at home, there is less demand on the State compared to them being in nursing home care. Therefore, it is important that we ensure people can stay in their own homes for the longest possible time and we provide the additional supports they need. With the rising costs in various areas for the household, it is important that that review would continue annually. The one subject we need to look at, especially for people living in rural areas, is that of people living alone and the living alone allowance.

I endorse the Deputy's comments, particularly regarding rural poverty. I will keep a laser-like focus on it during my time in the Department. I commend the work done by organisations such as Local Link, which is expanding its footprint to address the exact kind of loneliness the Deputy has just referred to.

The living alone allowance, or the living alone increase as it is formerly known, is available to those who are in receipt of the qualifying payments. It is a living alone allowance, not a scheme or stand-alone payment. It is a supplement to a primary social protection payment of €22 per week made to people aged 66 or over who are in receipt of certain social welfare payments and who are living alone. For the record of the House, the eligible payments are the State pension, the widow's, widower's or surviving civil partner's pension, the widow's, widower's or surviving civil partner's pension under the occupational injuries benefits scheme, the incapacity supplement and the deserted wives benefit. The living alone increase is also paid to people aged under 66 who live alone and are in receipt of the disability allowance, invalidity pension, incapacity supplement or blind pension.

There are no circumstances where the living alone allowance can be paid to people who are not in receipt of a primary qualifying payment from my Department or who do not meet the living alone eligibility criteria. That is on the basis and data we have available from a number of resources, including the CSO and the Vincentian Partnership for Social Justice, which shows the cost of living for a single person is slightly more than the individualised costs of two people living together.

In rural and urban areas, support groups provide an important service, particularly for those living alone or who are elderly and need support. It is important that, in reviewing those supports, there is work done across the Departments of Health and Social Protection to ensure that those groups get support to help those who need care and assistance, be they in urban or rural areas. It is something that needs to be co-ordinated to a far greater scale that it has before. Much work was done, particularly during Covid, and it is important that we continue and ensure that does not in slip in any way. We should not just take it that everyone is well able to look after himself or herself. That is not the case and is why we need to have those supports in place.

I am glad this is being discussed in terms of rural poverty. The Minister will completely understand this. I commend Irish Rural Link on the great work it has done in Mayo. It needs to be resourced to do an awful lot more. I will give the Minister an example of a woman I spoke to in Castlebar the other day. She has an appointment in Galway hospital next week. All of her income and benefit for the week will be wiped out because she has to pay for that taxi. She cannot get public transport. We discussed the ins and outs of it, but she just cannot. That is all of her benefit for the week. This is how people are being plunged into poverty. What is she to do for her food, fuel and everything else for that week? It is okay centralising health services and we all need the centres of excellence in certain disciplines, but asking somebody, without any help, to get from Castlebar - never mind from Blacksod - to Galway is impossible. I want the Minister to examine transport, specifically transport from Mayo to Galway hospital.

I agree with Deputy Burke and we will try to do that. Not just during Covid, but during Storm Éowyn we saw the real value of local groups, hubs and services. With my other hat of rural and community development, I am working within the Department on supporting those local hubs and services.

The timing of hospital appointments frustrates me. Even if a person was able to use public transport, the timing of a hospital appointment in Galway or any regional centre does not often reflect where that person has to travel from. More work can be done in facilitating people who are in a position to use public transport to use it, or even those with their own transport not to have to come in during rush hour, adding to the stress of the appointment.

Regarding the specific case, I am happy to work with Deputy Conway-Walsh's office. We may be able to look at an additional needs payment or some sort of support because nobody should have to make a choice like that between protecting her health and getting essential healthcare and having the food that is essential to that health. If the Deputy gives me the details, we will be more than happy to work with her on this.

I wish to ask the Minister the number of people who have been added to the family carers register under the long-term carers contribution scheme, the number that have been awarded the full-rate State pension, and the number that have been awarded a reduced rate.

We have had this discussion a few times today and the Government acknowledges the important role that carers are playing and we will continue to support them in that role. The enhanced State pension provision for people who have been caring for an incapacitated dependant for 20 years or more was introduced on 1 January 2024. If a person had more than 20 years of caring for an incapacitated person, long-term carers contributions are included in his or her pension calculations. An online application for long-term carers contribution is available through mywelfare.ie .

My Department continues to review State pension contributory applications where customers are awarded long-term carers contributions for 20 years or more and are in receipt of a reduced rate or payment. Application forms for the contributory State pension issue to people who have not applied for their pensions.

Details of people who were awarded 20 years or more long-term carers contributions and the numbers being awarded a full rate and reduced rate State pension are included in the table going to the Deputy.

I hope this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

I thank the Minister. We have spoken about this already today, as the Minister rightly said. It is encouraging to see the number of people who have been rewarded. We have spoke about women and their contribution. That is reflected in the numbers the Minister has presented. They are the ones that unfortunately had to stay at home in many cases to look after children. They get their due reward through this 20-year contribution that the Government has made. It is worthwhile and positive that we have the figures now so that we can encourage more people to apply for it. I look forward to more people availing of this contribution, and rightly so, for the work they have done in the home over so many years.

I agree with the Deputy. In our preparation for responding to his question, I have asked that we do more work in terms of reaching out to people who may qualify but who may not know. Those figures strike me as low. The Department has been doing a lot of work in this space in terms of trying to bring the scheme to people's attention. Maybe with the support of colleagues across the House, we can do that by way of newsletters and so on. We will be doing more work this year to draw people's attention. Many carers may not realise that they can now qualify for a contributory pension or may not have had the chance to actually see that they do. We will be proactive in trying to bring people's attention to it.

The Minister is 100% right. One of the main questions I get in my clinics when people come in to fill out applications for a State pension is about the qualifying contributions and so on. It is important that we all broadcast this and put it on our social media and everywhere else we can, as the figures are low. It is a start but we need to encourage more people to avail of it and to get their just reward for what they have done over those 20 years. I look forward to working with the Minister on that promotion and ensuring that people get their reward over the coming period of time.

The question is to ask the Minister for Social Protection his plans to provide increased flexibility in the rural social scheme and if he will make a statement on the matter. The rural social scheme was introduced in the first instance by former Minister Éamon Ó Cuív in 2004. I pay tribute to him for that. Of course, he was the first ever full Cabinet Minister with a specific brief for rural Ireland. I wish to thank all the participants and their supervisors in County Kerry for the tremendous work they have carried out for a number of years and for making our county an even better place to live. Last year, a report on the review of the RSS was published. This review was to look at the role of the RSS and its ongoing relevance in the changing landscape, the funding and resourcing required, along with the appropriate governance and management arrangements. The key findings from the RSS report include that the RSS provides an important social inclusion and income support function for low-income farmers and fisherpersons.

I thank Deputy Cahill for his question. As he said, the rural social scheme plays an important role in the life of rural communities. I wish to highlight and thank every participant, supervisor and sponsoring company for their work in this space. The RSS provides an income support and part-time employment opportunities for farmers and fishers who are in receipt of certain social welfare payments and who may be underemployed in their primary occupations.

A review of the RSS was published in July 2024 in Newport, County Mayo, with 19 key recommendations to address the sustainability of the rural social scheme to further add to its flexibility. I am happy to report that a number of the recommendations are being implemented, including from this year replacing annual contracts with the provision of three-year contracts to existing RSS participants. Instead of the current annual review process, the renewal process will now be undertaken at three-yearly intervals for those under 60 years of age while existing RSS participants who reach the age of 60 will not be subject to any further review of means or circumstances until they exit the scheme at the age of 66. The implementing bodies have also been asked to explore options with people who are exiting the rural social scheme to encourage them to participate as volunteers within the company, in particular those who have reached 66 years.

I am continuing to explore options to implementing the remaining recommendations. Officials are engaging with other relevant Departments and agencies as part of this process. Some of the recommendations we are exploring in this process include the recommendation to extend the RSS on a pilot basis, with 250 places to be made available to rural dwellers who, although not engaged in farming or fishing, are over 50 and are on a relevant social welfare payment. I have asked my officials to expedite that particular work. The other recommendations are to allow a couple engaged in farming or fishing to both access the scheme and to extend the scheme to those engaged in farming or fishing who may not be the holders of a herd number or a fishing license but who have what is termed a defined connection to the farming or fishing enterprise.

I am very aware of the extraordinary contribution the RSS makes. Once again, I highlight and thank RSS participants, supervisors and implementing companies throughout the country. I intend to work hard on this.

Finally, I endorse the remarks of Deputy Cahill in respect of former Deputy Éamon Ó Cuív and his work in this space.

I thank the Minister. I welcome the proposed increase in age limits. That is welcome. The scheme should now be made more flexible to include all people living in rural Ireland on low incomes. The RSS delivers to rural communities key community services including the maintenance of sporting facilities, community recreation areas and waymarked walking routes. Declining participation since 2019 is causing a concern that rural communities may be left without key community services.

The report includes 19 recommendations to address the sustainability of the RSS to continue providing income support. Will the Minister provide an update on the implementation of the recommendations on income support? The review also recommended an extension of the RSS to environmental initiatives and that consideration be given to the feasibility of establishing a grant fund that would be available for work on biodiversity initiatives. Is that happening?

I wish to avail of this opportunity to call for better pay and conditions for he supervisors who run these important schemes and without whom the RSS would not be the great success story that it is today.

I welcome the opportunity to say a couple of words on the rural social scheme. I welcome the flexibility the Minister has introduced. I want him to look in particular at meals on wheels. Yesterday, Lorraine from Claremorris, Martina and Peter from Louisburgh and Deirdre from Castlebar were in Leinster House. One of the issues that were raised regarding the RSS was the need to allow two people to get onto the scheme rather than just the herd owner. It is vital. They find that they cannot continue their meals on wheels service without having some flexibility. They want generators as well. As the Minister knows, in Storm Éowyn they were a vital lifeline. If he will give them the flexibility under the RSS to meet the needs of particular rural areas and continue providing these vital services, it would be welcome. I will work with the Minister in trying to get this done.

I thank Deputies Cahill and Conway-Walsh for their remarks. Regarding the review, we have fully implemented five recommendations. Actually, I had a meeting yesterday with officials on the remaining ones, including extending eligibility to people not directly engaged in farming or fishing but who have a connection to a rural community and the issue of two people accessing it. I have asked them to come back to me on those issues.

Regarding Deputy Cahill's comments on biodiversity, we are committed to exploring opportunities with key stakeholders that will provide options for grant funding for green initiatives and to further explore options for those who wish to volunteer their time to local services. My Department is engaging with officials in the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine and in my other Department of Rural and Community Development as well as local authorities, which are important in this space, to allow us to deliver collectively on the recommendations in the RSS review. Most importantly, we will continue to engage with the farming and rural development organisations.

I am aware that, despite the fantastic work of the scheme and its supervisors and so-called implementing bodies, there are vacancies in schemes all over the country. I know those can be filled if we have the right flexibility.

There are vacancies and schemes all over the country that I know can be filled if we have the flexibility. One feature relating to all of these schemes - RSS, Tús and CE - is that I want there to be a greater understanding within my Department that they are no longer just labour market activation schemes; they are far greater than that. Something we want to see is that these schemes have a social employment value but also are of social value to participants on the scheme and provide services to communities, as referred to by the Deputy, that otherwise would not be available. We would be a far poorer country without the work done by RSS, CE and Tús schemes.

I ask the Minister for details of and a review into the hot school meals programme.

As I said in reply to Deputy O'Reilly, the hot school meals review was announced when we expanded programme just ahead of the Easter school holidays. With regard to nutrition, the specific standard was set under the nutritional standards for school meals and nutritional standards for hot school meals. A technical nutrition subgroup comprised of dietitians from the Irish Nutrition and Dietetic Institute of Ireland, the HSE, Safefood, and the Food Safety Authority of Ireland came together and developed the standards, which are available on gov.ie .

Nutritional standards are a priority. I have asked for a review of the scheme’s nutritional standards, and this will be conducted by a dietician who will be supervised by the Department of Health and in co-ordination with the interdepartmental group on school meals. I have asked for a report on the nutritional standards be submitted to me by the end of this calendar year.

In the meantime, food that is high in saturated fat, sugar and salt will be removed from the school menus by September 2025. Up to now this food had been permitted once a week at most and only when selected by childrens' parents. I trust this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Perhaps the Minister will elaborate on this but from my understanding is that of the 2,220 schools participating in the programme, only 14 will be assessed this year. That is fewer than one in five schools. The review has been announced but we need to know the terms of reference as well. Will the Minister come back on that? How long will the review take? He said he hopes to have the review on his desk by the end of the year but is that the review of just the portion of schools that will be reviewed this year or is that an overall review of all schools? The Minister mentioned nutrition and a dietician and the standards he is looking for and that is what we all support. The one thing we can say about the free hot school meals programme is it is a really good initiative for a lot of children. It ensures that we know every child has at least one hot meal per day. This is what we can get behind and can work together on because at the end of the day we want children to eat hot food that is nutritious at the same time. I am not here to criticise. I am here to support getting the hot school meals programme right. This is for all children and something we all want to work for.

I agree with the Deputy entirely. We want this scheme to work. We will do the final roll-out in September so that every primary school pupil in the country will have had the opportunity to have hot school meals within their school. At that time I intend to stand back and examine at the scheme to see where it has been working and where it has not. I will be very focused on DEIS secondary schools during the lifetime of this Government as well.

The review that is under way is on nutritional standards. I will have the final report of that review by the end of December and will act on that because there are concerns contained within it. There will be 400 inspections conducted by my Department this year relating to the contracts between schools and school meal providers. That is a process I am also looking at to make sure it is more in-depth. The nutritional review is being led by a dietician under the supervision of the Department of Health. This ensures they are the expert person to look at the nutritional side and then the operational side of the programme will be reviewed once the final roll-out into the remaining primary schools has been completed.

I agree with the Minister that we need the highest standards of nutrition, especially when dealing with young children so I support that. I have a couple of concerns. The same funding of €3.20 per meal and portion size is given to children ranging from junior infants to sixth class, that i,s from children as young as four to the age of 12. I am not sure if the Minister has kids but I have two girls and I recall when they were at that age. I have coached teams and seen that boys and girls of 12 years of age cannot have the same portion size as a four-year-old so that needs to be examined. It needs to be amended and I ask the Minister to look at that.

A report by the Irish Farmers Journal found that some rural schools find it difficult to get local suppliers. The Irish country living section found that the traceability of the food can be poor. One example was where an ingredient was listed as "pasta sauce". That is not an ingredient so we need to work on that to ensure proper ingredients are supplied.

Last, I have concerns the programme is all being subcontracted out. I would like, where possible, for these workers to work in our schools and be part of our education system from a food point of view and a provider point of view. We see more and more privatisation. That has always been the Government's agenda. I do not want to argue with it but I would like to bring the programme back into the schools and see people employed full time to do it.

I totally agree with the Deputy that a five-year-old should not receive the same portion as a 13-year-old and we get that feedback a lot. I suspect there are Members who have seen food come home with schoolbags and probably found it a few days later.

Every school has the flexibility, within procurement rules, to choose the provider of the food. There is not some massive corporate monolith. There are a lot of locally-based companies providing services, local employment and the highest standard of locally sourced food. Yes, there are anomalies and it is always the anomalies that are highlighted In my own and Deputy Conway-Walsh's county there are small, owner managed companies working hard and that is replicated across the country so we do not want to lose that model. I had a good discussion with Deputy O'Reilly about the potential involvement of the meals on wheels network in delivering school meals and we will look into doing that if the capacity is there.

The review on nutrition will consider all the other issues raised by the Deputy. Pasta sauce is not that bad for you.

I have no doubt about that. I am not saying it is, either.

The review will absolutely capture all of that. It is very important. There are a lot of local companies involved in this that otherwise would not be providing quality employment and service without this programme.