No, the House can decide those rules as it reaches the particular agreements.

No. The groupings are reached when they are reached. We will deal with each of them at the time. Those are not my rules. They are the rules of the House. I do not make up the rules here. I am just saying that groupings, as we reach them, are agreed or not agreed.

We have never done it any other way. Never in my time in this Chair have I done it any other way than when we reach each group, we ask if the proposed grouping is agreed, and it is either agreed or it is not. It is generally agreed. It has not always been agreed. That is what has happened any time I have been in the Chair.

I do not believe the House is going to disagree at any point.

Amendments Nos. 1 and 2 have already been grouped. They were agreed to be grouped by the House on a different day. They are being discussed together. They will be voted on separately but they are being discussed together. After we deal with amendments Nos. 1 and 2, the next grouping is amendments Nos. 3, c4a and d4a. They may be discussed together by agreement. I will put that question to the House and either it agrees to that or it does not. Likewise, when we get to amendments Nos. 3a, 3d and 5a, the Chair will sa…

I will allow the Minister of State to respond in whatever way she likes. Senator Craughwell is entitled to put a question and the Minister of State is entitled to respond to it as she likes.

Yes, we are dealing with amendments to the Bill. Would the Minister of State like to respond to Senator Craughwell?

I do not have the power to instruct the Minister of State as to what she responds to. The Senator is allowed to put questions relevant to either the section or the amendments, and the Minister of State is entitled to respond in whatever way she likes.

That is the Senator's opinion.

Before we go any further, this particular amendment has to do with the licence holders' forum.

I am quite happy to let anybody contribute on that but that is what we are dealing with at present.

It probably is not a point of order but go ahead.

Senator Craughwell can resume his seat when Senator Buttimer is speaking.

I am allowing Senator Craughwell to speak and when he finishes I will bring in the Minister of State and then I will bring Senator Buttimer back in.

I will allow the Minister of State to respond to the point.

I thank the Minister of State.

I thank the Minister of State. I am doing my very best in that regard.

I know the Minister of State is very familiar with the workings of this House, having been a Member of it.

We are only discussing amendments Nos. 1 and 2. Neither of them are Government amendments, for the record.

That is not being discussed now. We are discussing amendments Nos. 1 and 2.