I think the Minister will agree with me the policy of a ministerial licence was from the outset overly bureaucratic and very arduous for parents. Many parents had to fight tooth and nail to get access for their children. I have always found it strange that with the more than 40 people who have ministerial licence, there is no joined-up thinking. There is no research done or joined-up thinking. The access programme gives that kind of joined-up thinking. Twenty people is a very small number to be benefiting from medi…