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Jack Chambers

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This compares the position a member expressed in a debate with the way they voted in the division that debate produced. It is not a measure of honesty. A member who argues against a Bill and then votes against it scores as aligned; so does one who never departs from a party line they also argue for. Voting against your own stated view under a party whip is ordinary parliamentary behaviour, which is why the whip breakdown below sits next to the headline rather than underneath it. Full method and validation →
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only 3 scorable votes — below the 10 needed for an interval worth printing
100%
voted with their own party's majority · 1,064 votes

Why the denominator is small

The measure only exists where this member actually spoke in the debate their vote belongs to, and where that vote can be tied to a specific question. Both cuts are steep.

Votes cast1,068
… spoke in that debate section61
… vote tied to a specific question43
… position stated clearly enough to score3

The third row is the sharpest cut. A committee-stage sitting can hold fifteen divisions while its speeches discuss forty-two numbered amendments, and the record does not say which amendment each division was. Those votes are counted here and deliberately left unscored rather than guessed.

Alignment against the whip

The same scorable votes, split by whether the member went with their party. The top-right cell is the one worth reading: a stated position reversed while following the party line.

Voted with own partyVoted against own party
Matched their words 2 0
Contradicted their words 1 0

Not scored: 18 where the vote could not be tied to a question, 0 where no clear position was stated in the debate.

Where the words and the vote diverge

Every case the pipeline flagged, with the contribution it read and the vote as recorded. Judge them yourself — that is the point of showing them rather than only the rate.

2024-11-05 · Finance Bill 2024: Committee and Remaining Stages · Question put: · Carried

Read as oppose (cue, confidence 0.80) · voted TA · with their party

I acknowledge everyone who has spoken. There was a wide array of topics referred to and I will try to respond on some of them. On amendments numbers 2, 3 and 4, on the universal social charge, the Rural Independent Group has requested a report on the abolition of the charge for those earning less than €70,000 per annum and a report on abolishing the charge for all employees in the State. Deputy Boyd Barrett has reque…

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Tone

Valence runs −1 (negative) to +1 (positive). This is a separate measure from alignment above and says nothing about how anyone voted — "the Minister has been asleep at the wheel" is strongly negative and carries no position on the question.

ModelSpeeches scored Mean valenceCorpus mean
vader1,557 +0.538 +0.423

Which policies move them

Mean tone by topic, most negative first. Topics come from an LDA model fitted over debate contributions; the terms are the model's, the labels are hand-assigned.

TopicSpeechesMean valence
Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy) agus · seo · leis · sin · atá · bhfuil 71 -0.577
War, Ukraine, Israel and human rights international · ireland · ukraine · israel · war · irish 7 +0.453
Legislation, courts and legal process act · legislation · shall · court · person · information 111 +0.573
Covid-19 and public health emergency covid · health · public · pandemic · measures · safety 16 +0.585
Justice, policing and defence garda · defence · justice · violence · criminal · gardaí 11 +0.612
Local government, roads and regional funding county · cork · discuss · west · road · local 8 +0.650
Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content) important · like · good · debate · did · does 18 +0.688
Housing, rent and homelessness housing · homes · local · accommodation · rent · affordable 9 +0.769
Employment, welfare schemes and business supports scheme · businesses · payment · sector · employment · insurance 29 +0.787
Media, banking and State companies ireland · irish · media · industry · companies · post 12 +0.791
Health services, HSE and disability health · services · care · service · hse · mental 12 +0.816
Departmental programmes and funding (diffuse) department · national · funding · new · important · programme 148 +0.820
Party-political exchange (party names dominate) workers · rights · right · sinn · féin · irish 6 +0.843
Cost of living, tax and budget cost · tax · budget · energy · costs · increase 16 +0.851
EU and international relations ireland · european · irish · union · europe · countries 15 +0.856
Education and schools school · education · schools · children · students · special 6 +0.861
Climate, agriculture, energy and water water · climate · farmers · energy · food · agriculture 8 +0.868
Transport, Dublin and rural development local · transport · dublin · city · public · community 14 +0.921

Departures from their own baseline

Contributions whose tone sits more than two standard deviations from this member's own average. Baselines are per member on purpose — an absolute threshold would just rank people by temperament.

2025-05-07 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -2.8 · War, Ukraine, Israel and human rights
Like the Deputy, I strongly condemn the continuing Israeli military operation, which has brought fresh suffering to the people of Gaza. The images we are seeing are truly horrific. The humanitarian situation in Gaza is catastrophic; it is hell on earth. It has…

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2022-02-09 · Údarás na Gaeltachta · z = -2.8 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
D'fhéadfadh an t-údarás a bheith níos gaire fós don phobal Gaeltachta a n-oibríonn sé dóibh. Is é sin an fáth go bhfuil an próiseas seo ag tosú. Is é sin an fáth go ndearna an Oifig um Sholáthar Rialtais na comórtais a reáchtáil. Tuigtear don Roinn go bhfuil o…

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2023-10-05 · Road Safety · z = -2.8
The evidence from the RSA shows that more than a small minority of people are speeding. Unfortunately, that is the case. We know that excessive speed continues to be a leading contributory factor in fatal and serious injury collisions in Ireland. Reducing spee…

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2021-11-24 · Official Languages (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage · z = -2.8 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Ní féidir liom glacadh le moladh an tSeanadóra sa chás seo mar go dtiteann an leasú seo taobh amuigh de scóip an Achta, is é sin taobh amuigh de ghnó na hearnála poiblí. Chomh maith leis sin, is gnó don chúirt é a chinntiú go bhféadfadh aon duine éisteacht a f…

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2021-11-24 · Official Languages (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage · z = -2.8 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Ní thagann an tAcht um Thrácht ar Bhóithre, atá faoi scáth na Roinne Iompair, faoi scóip an Bhille seo nó scóip an phríomh-Achta. Tuigtear dom, áfach, gur chuir an Roinn Iompair scéim phíolótach ar bun ar an ábhar atá ardaithe ag an Seanadóir roinnt blianta ó …

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2021-11-24 · Official Languages (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage · z = -2.8 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Gabhaim mo bhuíochas leis an Seanadóir as ucht an leasaithe seo a mholadh chuig an Teach. Tá seirbhísí pobal-inrochtana clúdaithe ag leasú a mhol mé agus a glacadh ar Chéim Thuarascála na Dála. Cinnteoidh an leasú sin gurb amhlaidh i gcás ina ndéanann comhlach…

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2021-10-06 · Bille na dTeangacha Oifigiúla (Leasú), 2019: An Tuarascáil agus an Chéim Dheiridh · z = -2.8 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Maidir leis an méid a dúirt an Teachta McHugh, bhí brón orm an nuacht sin a chloisteáil. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam. Duine an-deas ab ea Tom Burke. Is leasú de chuid an Rialtais é seo. Mar a dúirt mé, faoi láthair foráiltear le halt 9(2) den Acht go ndéanfaid…

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2021-12-08 · Official Languages (Amendment) Bill 2019: Report and Final Stages · z = -2.8 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Gabhaim buíochas leis na Seanadóirí as leasú Uimh. 8 a mholadh don Teach. Is leasú é atá pléite go minic. Mar a luaigh mé ag Céim an Choiste sa Teach seo ar an 24 Samhain, tá seirbhísí pobal-inrochtana clúdaithe ag leasú a mhol mé féin agus a glacadh leis ag C…

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2022-02-24 · Scéimeanna Teanga · z = -2.8
Mar is eol don Teachta, cuireadh deireadh le scéim labhairt na Gaeilge in 2011. Faoin scéim sin chuirtí deontais arbh fhiú €260 in aghaidh na scoilbhliana ar fáil do theaghlaigh cháilithe Ghaeltachta a bhí in ann léiriú don Roinn gurbh í an Ghaeilge príomhthea…

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2021-10-06 · Bille na dTeangacha Oifigiúla (Leasú), 2019: An Tuarascáil agus an Chéim Dheiridh · z = -2.8 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Maidir le leasú Uimh. 2, beimid ag tógáil ar líon agus leibhéal na seirbhísí atá ar fáil trí Ghaeilge trí fheidhmiú an phlean náisiúnta agus trí chóras na gcaighdeán ar bhonn céimnithe tomhaiste. Caithfimid a bheith airdeallach agus muid ag tabhairt leasuithe …

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2021-10-06 · Bille na dTeangacha Oifigiúla (Leasú), 2019: An Tuarascáil agus an Chéim Dheiridh · z = -2.7 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Tagraím do leasú Uimh. 3. Bhí plé fiúntach againn ar Chéim an Choiste maidir le hinniúlacht sa Ghaeilge agus d'éist mé go géar leis an méid a bhí le rá ag Teachtaí ar an ábhar seo. Cé go n-aontaím go mbeadh sé fiúntach a leithéid a bheith ann, ní hé an reachta…

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2021-10-06 · Bille na dTeangacha Oifigiúla (Leasú), 2019: An Tuarascáil agus an Chéim Dheiridh · z = -2.7 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Maidir leis na leasuithe atá as ord, níl aon ról agam i ndáiríre i rialuithe a dhéantar maidir le leasuithe a bheith in ord nó as ord. Is ceist don Cheann Comhairle í sin. Mar is eol do na Teachtaí, sa chás go rialaítear leasú as ord tá an deis ag Teachtaí é a…

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The whip, across the whole corpus

Alignment by the party a member sat for on the day, with 95% Wilson intervals. This is the test the measure could have failed.

PartyAligned95% CI n
PBP 82.5% 68–91% 40
LAB 78.2% 69–85% 101
IND 76.5% 72–81% 327
SF 75.8% 69–81% 198
SD 71.4% 58–82% 49
FG 69.1% 62–76% 162
FF 67.9% 60–75% 165
GP 56.8% 41–71% 37

Members of government parties align their stated position with their vote 9.4 points less often than Independents — bootstrap 95% CI [+2.7, +16.0], which excludes zero. Opposition parties sit 9.5 points above government too, CI [+3.1, +15.9]. Independents and opposition members are indistinguishable from each other (−0.0 points, CI [−6.3, +6.2]). So the gap does not come from having no party; it comes from being in government, which is what a whip effect should look like. Read this as the measure behaving sensibly, not as a finding about any individual.

How the scorer scores

Two automated methods were built and both failed. What survives is the rule-based layer, which is why the coverage above is narrow.

MethodAccuracy95% CI n
nli-vs-mover-anchor:deberta 35.9% 29–42% 234
nli-vs-mover-anchor:distilroberta 11.5% 8–16% 234

Zero-shot entailment was asked to judge contributions whose true position is known — the member moved the amendment, so the answer is support by construction — and got it right 11.5% of the time, returning "unclear" or "oppose" for nearly everything. A classifier trained on the rule-labelled cases over the corpus embeddings reached 71.1% against a 65.3% majority-class baseline: better than chance, not better enough. Both are excluded from every figure on this page. Only the rule-based cascade, which is exact where it fires and silent where it does not, is used.

Method

Position is read from the member's own contributions in the debate section the division belongs to, by a three-step cascade: an explicit move of the question ("I move amendment No. 5", true by construction); declarative stance phrases ordered so negations are tested first, because "I cannot support" and "I do not oppose" both defeat a naive keyword match; and, where neither fires, a zero-shot entailment model judging the contribution against the question put. Tone uses a separate model and is reported separately. Agreement against hand-labelled cases, with bootstrap intervals, is on the evidence page; no score here should be read without it.