I apologise. He deserves credit for the role he has played with the National Council for the Blind of Ireland in educating us and for showing us how we should actively listen to the concerns of visually impaired members of the public who use our footpaths. Despite what Senator Horkan said about scaremongering, some people are genuinely concerned about e-scooters on paths. I thank the Minister for his work and engagement. I wish him well and I look forward to Committee and Report Stages to further discuss the Bill. …