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John McGahon

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This compares the position a member expressed in a debate with the way they voted in the division that debate produced. It is not a measure of honesty. A member who argues against a Bill and then votes against it scores as aligned; so does one who never departs from a party line they also argue for. Voting against your own stated view under a party whip is ordinary parliamentary behaviour, which is why the whip breakdown below sits next to the headline rather than underneath it. Full method and validation →
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only 1 scorable vote — below the 10 needed for an interval worth printing
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voted with their own party's majority · 373 votes

Why the denominator is small

The measure only exists where this member actually spoke in the debate their vote belongs to, and where that vote can be tied to a specific question. Both cuts are steep.

Votes cast373
… spoke in that debate section79
… vote tied to a specific question26
… position stated clearly enough to score1

The third row is the sharpest cut. A committee-stage sitting can hold fifteen divisions while its speeches discuss forty-two numbered amendments, and the record does not say which amendment each division was. Those votes are counted here and deliberately left unscored rather than guessed.

Alignment against the whip

The same scorable votes, split by whether the member went with their party. The top-right cell is the one worth reading: a stated position reversed while following the party line.

Voted with own partyVoted against own party
Matched their words 1 0
Contradicted their words 0 0

Not scored: 53 where the vote could not be tied to a question, 0 where no clear position was stated in the debate.

Tone

Valence runs −1 (negative) to +1 (positive). This is a separate measure from alignment above and says nothing about how anyone voted — "the Minister has been asleep at the wheel" is strongly negative and carries no position on the question.

ModelSpeeches scored Mean valenceCorpus mean
vader431 +0.593 +0.423

Which policies move them

Mean tone by topic, most negative first. Topics come from an LDA model fitted over debate contributions; the terms are the model's, the labels are hand-assigned.

TopicSpeechesMean valence
War, Ukraine, Israel and human rights international · ireland · ukraine · israel · war · irish 11 +0.222
Health scandals, inquiries and bereaved families hospital · families · family · cancer · children · did 11 +0.348
Cost of living, tax and budget cost · tax · budget · energy · costs · increase 12 +0.570
Housing, rent and homelessness housing · homes · local · accommodation · rent · affordable 15 +0.610
Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content) important · like · good · debate · did · does 157 +0.634
Education and schools school · education · schools · children · students · special 23 +0.652
Health services, HSE and disability health · services · care · service · hse · mental 10 +0.667
Local government, roads and regional funding county · cork · discuss · west · road · local 32 +0.679
Legislation, courts and legal process act · legislation · shall · court · person · information 8 +0.699
Employment, welfare schemes and business supports scheme · businesses · payment · sector · employment · insurance 15 +0.709
Climate, agriculture, energy and water water · climate · farmers · energy · food · agriculture 22 +0.720
Covid-19 and public health emergency covid · health · public · pandemic · measures · safety 17 +0.779
Transport, Dublin and rural development local · transport · dublin · city · public · community 49 +0.810
Departmental programmes and funding (diffuse) department · national · funding · new · important · programme 11 +0.856
Media, banking and State companies ireland · irish · media · industry · companies · post 7 +0.884
EU and international relations ireland · european · irish · union · europe · countries 21 +0.913
Party-political exchange (party names dominate) workers · rights · right · sinn · féin · irish 6 +0.949

Departures from their own baseline

Contributions whose tone sits more than two standard deviations from this member's own average. Baselines are per member on purpose — an absolute threshold would just rank people by temperament.

2022-01-20 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.5 · Children, families and young people
I am not sure how many colleagues had the opportunity to watch "Prime Time" during the week. It was really quite harrowing to see what the family of Eden Heaslip has been put through over the last number of months. Bullying has existed for time immemorial, and…

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2021-07-15 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.5 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
It is not a case of calling for a debate or anything like that, but I wish to comment on the atrocious language that has been used by Members of the other House regarding some of the greatest atrocities that have been committed against mankind on the European …

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2020-10-23 · Health (Amendment) Bill 2020: Second Stage · z = -3.5 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
My apologies. The Senator argued that the regulations may affect the solidarity of people. I do not believe it will. I believe it will actually enhance people's solidarity as I will explain. People have often said to me that they and their family are abiding b…

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2020-10-16 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.5 · Education and schools
The Cathaoirleach is the guy with the experience on the Capitol, that is for sure. I raise the concept of teachers who are considered to be extremely high risk, due to medical issues, and who continue to have to work in our schools. I spoke with a teacher in m…

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2022-12-13 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.4 · Health scandals, inquiries and bereaved families
I raise the case of Dáithí McCann, a five-month-old baby from Dundalk, County Louth. Dáithí was born on 5 August 2022 but he lost a kidney soon after birth. His second kidney is also under threat. Fewer than 1% of babies are born with such a complex range of m…

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2021-06-22 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.3 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
In my first week of university nearly ten or 11 years ago, one of the first books I read was John Stewart Mill's On Liberty . He was a Liberal MP and Victorian political thinker. The main premise of his argument was he who knows only of his own side knows litt…

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2023-11-07 · Flood Risk Management · z = -3.1 · Local government, roads and regional funding
In Dundalk the flooding was not as severe as elsewhere. However, if one went north of the Ballymac roundabout last week, it was like a bomb had hit the Cooley Peninsula, it was that terrible compared to other parts of County Louth. However, in parts of Dundalk…

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2021-10-20 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.0 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I deleted those couple of emails that I got straight away. When it is a copy and paste job, one cannot take it too seriously but I will focus on the rest. Two thirds of the people in intensive care units in this country are not vaccinated so what more do we ne…

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2023-11-28 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.0 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I accept where we are in the legal process and I take the Leas-Chathaoirleach's guidance on that. The point that I am trying to make is that this was not just one community going out looting and causing problems and hassle. It was people who came to an area of…

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2021-09-22 · Address to Seanad Éireann by Members of the European Parliament · z = -2.7
I will be brief as I will also wrap up the debate. My question has two parts. What is the biggest issue or threat facing the European Union today? What is the biggest issue facing constituents in the midlands and north west?…

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2021-04-26 · Covid-19 Pandemic · z = -2.5 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I thank the Minister of State. I have a couple of asks which I would like the Minister of State to come back to me on in his written response. The first ask is the development of a virtual consultation service. We have seen from the Covid-19 crisis that virtua…

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2023-06-21 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -2.3
I know the Cathaoirleach asked Senator Carrigy to finish up but as there is no one else here, perhaps we should have another few minutes each.…

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The whip, across the whole corpus

Alignment by the party a member sat for on the day, with 95% Wilson intervals. This is the test the measure could have failed.

PartyAligned95% CI n
PBP 82.5% 68–91% 40
LAB 78.2% 69–85% 101
IND 76.5% 72–81% 327
SF 75.8% 69–81% 198
SD 71.4% 58–82% 49
FG 69.1% 62–76% 162
FF 67.9% 60–75% 165
GP 56.8% 41–71% 37

Members of government parties align their stated position with their vote 9.4 points less often than Independents — bootstrap 95% CI [+2.7, +16.0], which excludes zero. Opposition parties sit 9.5 points above government too, CI [+3.1, +15.9]. Independents and opposition members are indistinguishable from each other (−0.0 points, CI [−6.3, +6.2]). So the gap does not come from having no party; it comes from being in government, which is what a whip effect should look like. Read this as the measure behaving sensibly, not as a finding about any individual.

How the scorer scores

Two automated methods were built and both failed. What survives is the rule-based layer, which is why the coverage above is narrow.

MethodAccuracy95% CI n
nli-vs-mover-anchor:deberta 35.9% 29–42% 234
nli-vs-mover-anchor:distilroberta 11.5% 8–16% 234

Zero-shot entailment was asked to judge contributions whose true position is known — the member moved the amendment, so the answer is support by construction — and got it right 11.5% of the time, returning "unclear" or "oppose" for nearly everything. A classifier trained on the rule-labelled cases over the corpus embeddings reached 71.1% against a 65.3% majority-class baseline: better than chance, not better enough. Both are excluded from every figure on this page. Only the rule-based cascade, which is exact where it fires and silent where it does not, is used.

Method

Position is read from the member's own contributions in the debate section the division belongs to, by a three-step cascade: an explicit move of the question ("I move amendment No. 5", true by construction); declarative stance phrases ordered so negations are tested first, because "I cannot support" and "I do not oppose" both defeat a naive keyword match; and, where neither fires, a zero-shot entailment model judging the contribution against the question put. Tone uses a separate model and is reported separately. Agreement against hand-labelled cases, with bootstrap intervals, is on the evidence page; no score here should be read without it.