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Maria Byrne

Experimental measure. Read the method before quoting a number.
This compares the position a member expressed in a debate with the way they voted in the division that debate produced. It is not a measure of honesty. A member who argues against a Bill and then votes against it scores as aligned; so does one who never departs from a party line they also argue for. Voting against your own stated view under a party whip is ordinary parliamentary behaviour, which is why the whip breakdown below sits next to the headline rather than underneath it. Full method and validation →
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only 5 scorable votes — below the 10 needed for an interval worth printing
100%
voted with their own party's majority · 465 votes

Why the denominator is small

The measure only exists where this member actually spoke in the debate their vote belongs to, and where that vote can be tied to a specific question. Both cuts are steep.

Votes cast465
… spoke in that debate section196
… vote tied to a specific question75
… position stated clearly enough to score5

The third row is the sharpest cut. A committee-stage sitting can hold fifteen divisions while its speeches discuss forty-two numbered amendments, and the record does not say which amendment each division was. Those votes are counted here and deliberately left unscored rather than guessed.

Alignment against the whip

The same scorable votes, split by whether the member went with their party. The top-right cell is the one worth reading: a stated position reversed while following the party line.

Voted with own partyVoted against own party
Matched their words 4 0
Contradicted their words 1 0

Not scored: 121 where the vote could not be tied to a question, 0 where no clear position was stated in the debate.

Where the words and the vote diverge

Every case the pipeline flagged, with the contribution it read and the vote as recorded. Judge them yourself — that is the point of showing them rather than only the rate.

2023-02-16 · Central Bank (Individual Accountability Framework) Bill 2022: Committee Stage · Amendment put: · Lost

Read as support (mover, confidence 0.95) · voted NIL · with their party

I move amendment No. 17: In page 15, after line 39, to insert the following: “(2A) Nothing referred to in a subparagraph of any paragraph of subsection (1), as included in that paragraph, shall operate to limit a person’s right against self-incrimination under Article 38.1 of the Constitution or Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights.”…

Full contribution → · The division →

Tone

Valence runs −1 (negative) to +1 (positive). This is a separate measure from alignment above and says nothing about how anyone voted — "the Minister has been asleep at the wheel" is strongly negative and carries no position on the question.

ModelSpeeches scored Mean valenceCorpus mean
vader1,096 +0.685 +0.423

Which policies move them

Mean tone by topic, most negative first. Topics come from an LDA model fitted over debate contributions; the terms are the model's, the labels are hand-assigned.

TopicSpeechesMean valence
Health scandals, inquiries and bereaved families hospital · families · family · cancer · children · did 64 +0.401
Covid-19 and public health emergency covid · health · public · pandemic · measures · safety 16 +0.431
Justice, policing and defence garda · defence · justice · violence · criminal · gardaí 10 +0.484
Health services, HSE and disability health · services · care · service · hse · mental 81 +0.592
Climate, agriculture, energy and water water · climate · farmers · energy · food · agriculture 9 +0.638
Children, families and young people children · women · young · child · family · families 32 +0.670
Cost of living, tax and budget cost · tax · budget · energy · costs · increase 20 +0.678
Education and schools school · education · schools · children · students · special 39 +0.730
Local government, roads and regional funding county · cork · discuss · west · road · local 74 +0.740
Employment, welfare schemes and business supports scheme · businesses · payment · sector · employment · insurance 75 +0.741
Housing, rent and homelessness housing · homes · local · accommodation · rent · affordable 18 +0.742
Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content) important · like · good · debate · did · does 205 +0.771
Legislation, courts and legal process act · legislation · shall · court · person · information 17 +0.801
Transport, Dublin and rural development local · transport · dublin · city · public · community 51 +0.804
Media, banking and State companies ireland · irish · media · industry · companies · post 9 +0.816
Departmental programmes and funding (diffuse) department · national · funding · new · important · programme 13 +0.871
EU and international relations ireland · european · irish · union · europe · countries 11 +0.901
War, Ukraine, Israel and human rights international · ireland · ukraine · israel · war · irish 8 +0.911

Departures from their own baseline

Contributions whose tone sits more than two standard deviations from this member's own average. Baselines are per member on purpose — an absolute threshold would just rank people by temperament.

2025-07-03 · Health Services · z = -4.0 · Health services, HSE and disability
I thank the Minister of State, Deputy Butler, for coming to the House to discuss this important issue. In recent weeks I have met an adult and a 18-year-old girl who suffer from Crohn's disease. The 18-year-old girl has been very debilitated over recent years.…

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2022-05-04 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -4.0 · Health services, HSE and disability
I wish to raise the report published yesterday on women and ovarian cancer. The report found that many women are presenting very late in the day in terms of being diagnosed with ovarian cancer. Somewhere between 300 and 400 people are coming forward very late.…

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2025-02-19 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -4.0 · Health services, HSE and disability
I will raise an issue that I raised in the previous Seanad, that is, that people who receive a terminal diagnosis should automatically qualify for a medical card. It is something that will receive unanimous support across this House. It is also something that …

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2023-01-24 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.9 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I thank the Cathaoirleach and also the Leader, Senator Chambers, for coming today. It would be inconsistent if I did not raise the march last Saturday in Limerick of more than 11,000 people, and the concerns around the hospital. We will have the opportunity to…

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2025-07-08 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.8 · Health scandals, inquiries and bereaved families
I agree with the remarks of the Taoiseach on the banning of sunbeds, following a report from the HSE that over 11,000 people a year are being diagnosed with some form of skin cancer, many cases of which are as a result of people using sunbeds. It is something …

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2022-12-13 · Mental Health Services · z = -3.8 · Health services, HSE and disability
The Minister of State is welcome to the Chamber. More than 100 children and young adults have been waiting for more than a year for mental health appointments in Limerick and the mid-west, and this is not good enough. I am aware there are many problems recruit…

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2022-11-24 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.7 · Health services, HSE and disability
I welcome the announcement by Shannon Airport this morning that two extra routes, one to Porto and one to Naples, will be added to its complement of flights from Shannon Airport, starting in the summer of 2023. That means people can travel to more than 26 dest…

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2025-10-01 · Tobacco Control Measures · z = -3.7 · Children, families and young people
I thank the Minister of State for coming in to discuss this all-important topic. I ask for an update on indoor vaping. In 2022, I brought a Private Members' motion to this House and the Minister of State's predecessor, Deputy Feighan, took it on behalf of the …

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2024-02-08 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.6 · Health scandals, inquiries and bereaved families
I rise to express my frustration with what is happening at University Hospital Limerick. I have been very consistent for quite a while in looking for the Minister to come here to address it. Yesterday, I wrote to the Minister, Deputy Donnelly, and asked him to…

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2021-09-30 · Airport Policy · z = -3.5 · Local government, roads and regional funding
I thank the Minister of State for her response. Yesterday, I welcomed in the House the appointment of Pádraig Ó Céidigh as the new chair of the board. I certainly believe that his experience of aviation and business will be a big asset. Shannon Airport has suf…

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2026-05-07 · Tax Code · z = -3.5 · Covid-19 and public health emergency
I thank the Minister of State for coming to the House to discuss this all-important topic. I am asking the Government to reduce VAT on sunscreen and sun protection factor, SPF, products to 0%. The Irish Cancer Society tells us that over 13,000 people are diagn…

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2025-06-10 · Tax Code · z = -3.5 · Cost of living, tax and budget
While I understand we must comply with European law, perhaps I need to raise directly with the Minister for Health and suggest that sunscreen be added to the medicines list or be listed as a preventative cure. Ireland has a high rate of skin cancer and the VAT…

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The whip, across the whole corpus

Alignment by the party a member sat for on the day, with 95% Wilson intervals. This is the test the measure could have failed.

PartyAligned95% CI n
PBP 82.5% 68–91% 40
LAB 78.2% 69–85% 101
IND 76.5% 72–81% 327
SF 75.8% 69–81% 198
SD 71.4% 58–82% 49
FG 69.1% 62–76% 162
FF 67.9% 60–75% 165
GP 56.8% 41–71% 37

Members of government parties align their stated position with their vote 9.4 points less often than Independents — bootstrap 95% CI [+2.7, +16.0], which excludes zero. Opposition parties sit 9.5 points above government too, CI [+3.1, +15.9]. Independents and opposition members are indistinguishable from each other (−0.0 points, CI [−6.3, +6.2]). So the gap does not come from having no party; it comes from being in government, which is what a whip effect should look like. Read this as the measure behaving sensibly, not as a finding about any individual.

How the scorer scores

Two automated methods were built and both failed. What survives is the rule-based layer, which is why the coverage above is narrow.

MethodAccuracy95% CI n
nli-vs-mover-anchor:deberta 35.9% 29–42% 234
nli-vs-mover-anchor:distilroberta 11.5% 8–16% 234

Zero-shot entailment was asked to judge contributions whose true position is known — the member moved the amendment, so the answer is support by construction — and got it right 11.5% of the time, returning "unclear" or "oppose" for nearly everything. A classifier trained on the rule-labelled cases over the corpus embeddings reached 71.1% against a 65.3% majority-class baseline: better than chance, not better enough. Both are excluded from every figure on this page. Only the rule-based cascade, which is exact where it fires and silent where it does not, is used.

Method

Position is read from the member's own contributions in the debate section the division belongs to, by a three-step cascade: an explicit move of the question ("I move amendment No. 5", true by construction); declarative stance phrases ordered so negations are tested first, because "I cannot support" and "I do not oppose" both defeat a naive keyword match; and, where neither fires, a zero-shot entailment model judging the contribution against the question put. Tone uses a separate model and is reported separately. Agreement against hand-labelled cases, with bootstrap intervals, is on the evidence page; no score here should be read without it.