I am sure it has but I will check it again.

The Minister of State, Deputy Butler, did meet the group.

Deputy McGrath just said that she did not.

Motions never built a hospital. It just amazes me the degree to which it takes so long in this country to build hospitals. We urgently need a national------

I just want to make my point in response.

It will not happen on my watch. It is going to be built, and it will be commenced and be done with the public interest as the number one with regard to the lands and governorship and so on.

I agree with that. The Minister for Education is pursuing that. I do not have the timelines for the policy initiatives on that front, but I will revert to the Deputy on the matter.

The Deputy has made a very fair point and I will certainly pursue that with the Minister.

Generally, we need to reflect on the broad issue of having statutory public inquiries one after the other, irrespective of this, and I do not believe anybody would doubt that these are serious cases the Deputy has raised. Previously, the Oireachtas decided to have statutory inquiries that have gone on for five, six or seven years with no conclusion. It is not a model that is working.

The inquiry model is not working, if I am honest. It takes an inordinate length of time for them to conclude at an extraordinary cost. Deputies have referred to Siteserv. I could name them all. I am making the point that we all genuinely felt the need to have-----

We have. A commission of inquiry was meant to be an alternative model to a public inquiry.

There is a lack of capacity in this country to have an inquiry without an adversarial dimension, barristers and lawyering up-----

I have to make the point. I want to be fair.

I am answering the question. The easy answer is to say "Yes" or "No". It is a more honest to ask whether we need to interrogate this model before we start an inquiry. Every week someone asks for an inquiry about something.

I am not trivialising it; I am serious about this. We need to analyse this as an Oireachtas because it is the Oireachtas that decides to have inquiries, but they take an extraordinary length of time and are not giving people closure at the end of it all.

I am serious. I will meet with party leaders to discuss this, if the Deputy wishes. We need a discussion about this.

I am giving the answer, but the Deputy-----

I could name seven inquiries that there should be in Northern Ireland about the activities of your movement over the years, but we have never had them. Talk to the people in Northern Ireland who were kneecapped for decades. There was never any closure. (Interruptions).

I will meet with people to discuss this, but at the moment the model we have is not working.

I wish to make the point that I did answer, and I was heckled again for answering.