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Pat Casey

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This compares the position a member expressed in a debate with the way they voted in the division that debate produced. It is not a measure of honesty. A member who argues against a Bill and then votes against it scores as aligned; so does one who never departs from a party line they also argue for. Voting against your own stated view under a party whip is ordinary parliamentary behaviour, which is why the whip breakdown below sits next to the headline rather than underneath it. Full method and validation →
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only 3 scorable votes — below the 10 needed for an interval worth printing
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voted with their own party's majority · 562 votes

Why the denominator is small

The measure only exists where this member actually spoke in the debate their vote belongs to, and where that vote can be tied to a specific question. Both cuts are steep.

Votes cast562
… spoke in that debate section158
… vote tied to a specific question42
… position stated clearly enough to score3

The third row is the sharpest cut. A committee-stage sitting can hold fifteen divisions while its speeches discuss forty-two numbered amendments, and the record does not say which amendment each division was. Those votes are counted here and deliberately left unscored rather than guessed.

Alignment against the whip

The same scorable votes, split by whether the member went with their party. The top-right cell is the one worth reading: a stated position reversed while following the party line.

Voted with own partyVoted against own party
Matched their words 2 0
Contradicted their words 1 0

Not scored: 116 where the vote could not be tied to a question, 0 where no clear position was stated in the debate.

Where the words and the vote diverge

Every case the pipeline flagged, with the contribution it read and the vote as recorded. Judge them yourself — that is the point of showing them rather than only the rate.

2025-04-29 · Revised National Planning Framework: Motion · Question put: "That the motion be agreed to." · Carried

Read as oppose (cue, confidence 0.80) · voted TA · with their party

I welcome the Minister of State and wish him the best of luck in his role. Hopefully, he will bring the energy he brought to the Senate when we had housing debates to his current position. Fianna Fáil supports this motion to approve the revised NPF. This framework is set to create the conditions necessary for accelerated housing delivery across Ireland. This approval follows a thorough revision process of the NPF tha…

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Tone

Valence runs −1 (negative) to +1 (positive). This is a separate measure from alignment above and says nothing about how anyone voted — "the Minister has been asleep at the wheel" is strongly negative and carries no position on the question.

ModelSpeeches scored Mean valenceCorpus mean
vader316 +0.508 +0.423

Which policies move them

Mean tone by topic, most negative first. Topics come from an LDA model fitted over debate contributions; the terms are the model's, the labels are hand-assigned.

TopicSpeechesMean valence
Local government, roads and regional funding county · cork · discuss · west · road · local 6 +0.140
Covid-19 and public health emergency covid · health · public · pandemic · measures · safety 17 +0.204
Climate, agriculture, energy and water water · climate · farmers · energy · food · agriculture 8 +0.289
Employment, welfare schemes and business supports scheme · businesses · payment · sector · employment · insurance 56 +0.408
Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content) important · like · good · debate · did · does 63 +0.437
Transport, Dublin and rural development local · transport · dublin · city · public · community 22 +0.441
Housing, rent and homelessness housing · homes · local · accommodation · rent · affordable 32 +0.465
Legislation, courts and legal process act · legislation · shall · court · person · information 14 +0.650
Cost of living, tax and budget cost · tax · budget · energy · costs · increase 13 +0.711
Media, banking and State companies ireland · irish · media · industry · companies · post 10 +0.794
Departmental programmes and funding (diffuse) department · national · funding · new · important · programme 16 +0.822
EU and international relations ireland · european · irish · union · europe · countries 9 +0.969

Departures from their own baseline

Contributions whose tone sits more than two standard deviations from this member's own average. Baselines are per member on purpose — an absolute threshold would just rank people by temperament.

2022-11-17 · Central Bank (Amendment) Bill 2022: Second Stage · z = -2.9 · Health scandals, inquiries and bereaved families
I welcome our special guests in the Gallery and the Minister of State. Fianna Fáil welcomes the Bill, which was put forward by my colleagues, Senators Ardagh and Buttimer. It seeks to end the discrimination cancer survivors face when trying to access financial…

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2022-10-05 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -2.9 · Employment, welfare schemes and business supports
My issue relates to the budget of last week and my disappointment in relation to the extension of the VAT rate for the hospitality sector. At a time when that sector faces many challenges as it tries to get back to the capacity it had before the pandemic, it w…

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2023-06-15 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -2.9 · Housing, rent and homelessness
I welcome the Deputy Leader. I am returning to an issue that I have raised before regarding the national planning framework and how it arrived at its population growth figures, and, more importantly, how those figures were distributed regionally and on a count…

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2022-05-05 · Rail Network · z = -2.9 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I, too, understand the Minister of State was handed a written reply and this issue does not relate to his brief, but the answer is totally unacceptable. DART+ does not yet exist and I do not think reopening the western coastal rail line will have much impact o…

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2023-02-09 · Moving Towards Zero Tolerance of Violence against Women: Statements · z = -2.9 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
The Minister is welcome to the House. I will start with a point made by Senator Ward. It is very hard to stand up here as a man to talk about sexual violence against women, but on the other hand, we should take the lead on it and drive the reform process. I wi…

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2022-03-03 · Animal Health and Welfare and Forestry (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) · z = -2.9 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I will briefly focus on the verifiable evidence. I will go back to my own situation. If the Minister was to come to me and say that he was going to base my compensation on the past five years of my business, but 40% of that time was two years of the worst year…

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2020-07-30 · Financial Provisions (Covid-19) (No. 2) Bill 2020: Committee Stage · z = -2.9 · Employment, welfare schemes and business supports
As an employer in one of the sectors that has been referred to, I can understand the sentiment being expressed. However, we are in a crisis and we need to respond to that crisis very quickly. Trying to enter into collective bargaining before one would qualify …

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2021-07-13 · Finance (Covid-19 and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2021: Committee and Remaining Stages · z = -2.8 · Employment, welfare schemes and business supports
The core elements of section 2 are the two key pillars that have sustained businesses and kept them going over the Covid-19 period. I refer to the employment wage subsidy scheme, EWSS, and its predecessor, the wage subsidy scheme; and to the Covid restrictions…

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2021-07-13 · Finance (Covid-19 and Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2021: Committee and Remaining Stages · z = -2.8 · Employment, welfare schemes and business supports
I thank the Minister of State for his comprehensive reply but the definition of a cliff edge is it is there one day and not there the next. That is exactly what he is describing on 31 December. The EWSS will come to an end. I will speak to this from a practica…

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2023-03-07 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -2.8 · Housing, rent and homelessness
I also congratulate the Leas-Chathaoirleach on the work he has done. Anybody who knows Senator Mark Daly knows who Thomas Meagher is - that is for sure. The issue I raise has been raised by a number of Senators in recent weeks and is very topical at the moment…

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2026-02-18 · Address to Seanad Éireann by Members of the European Parliament · z = -2.7 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I will be as brief as I can. Billy Kelleher always tells it as it is. We all want more, but we are not willing to identify how we are going to pay for it. I look forward to him making a presentation at the next parliamentary party meeting looking for more mone…

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2021-05-28 · Affordable Housing Bill 2021: Committee Stage · z = -2.7 · Housing, rent and homelessness
Senator Fitzpatrick has covered most of my points. Taking a segment of housing out of affordability will add to the crisis. Every one of us who has been on a local authority knows that local authorities are buying social houses on the open market every year an…

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The whip, across the whole corpus

Alignment by the party a member sat for on the day, with 95% Wilson intervals. This is the test the measure could have failed.

PartyAligned95% CI n
PBP 82.5% 68–91% 40
LAB 78.2% 69–85% 101
IND 76.5% 72–81% 327
SF 75.8% 69–81% 198
SD 71.4% 58–82% 49
FG 69.1% 62–76% 162
FF 67.9% 60–75% 165
GP 56.8% 41–71% 37

Members of government parties align their stated position with their vote 9.4 points less often than Independents — bootstrap 95% CI [+2.7, +16.0], which excludes zero. Opposition parties sit 9.5 points above government too, CI [+3.1, +15.9]. Independents and opposition members are indistinguishable from each other (−0.0 points, CI [−6.3, +6.2]). So the gap does not come from having no party; it comes from being in government, which is what a whip effect should look like. Read this as the measure behaving sensibly, not as a finding about any individual.

How the scorer scores

Two automated methods were built and both failed. What survives is the rule-based layer, which is why the coverage above is narrow.

MethodAccuracy95% CI n
nli-vs-mover-anchor:deberta 35.9% 29–42% 234
nli-vs-mover-anchor:distilroberta 11.5% 8–16% 234

Zero-shot entailment was asked to judge contributions whose true position is known — the member moved the amendment, so the answer is support by construction — and got it right 11.5% of the time, returning "unclear" or "oppose" for nearly everything. A classifier trained on the rule-labelled cases over the corpus embeddings reached 71.1% against a 65.3% majority-class baseline: better than chance, not better enough. Both are excluded from every figure on this page. Only the rule-based cascade, which is exact where it fires and silent where it does not, is used.

Method

Position is read from the member's own contributions in the debate section the division belongs to, by a three-step cascade: an explicit move of the question ("I move amendment No. 5", true by construction); declarative stance phrases ordered so negations are tested first, because "I cannot support" and "I do not oppose" both defeat a naive keyword match; and, where neither fires, a zero-shot entailment model judging the contribution against the question put. Tone uses a separate model and is reported separately. Agreement against hand-labelled cases, with bootstrap intervals, is on the evidence page; no score here should be read without it.