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Seán Kyne

Experimental measure. Read the method before quoting a number.
This compares the position a member expressed in a debate with the way they voted in the division that debate produced. It is not a measure of honesty. A member who argues against a Bill and then votes against it scores as aligned; so does one who never departs from a party line they also argue for. Voting against your own stated view under a party whip is ordinary parliamentary behaviour, which is why the whip breakdown below sits next to the headline rather than underneath it. Full method and validation →
90%
aligned on 10 scorable votes · 95% CI 60–98%
100%
voted with their own party's majority · 690 votes

Why the denominator is small

The measure only exists where this member actually spoke in the debate their vote belongs to, and where that vote can be tied to a specific question. Both cuts are steep.

Votes cast690
… spoke in that debate section187
… vote tied to a specific question86
… position stated clearly enough to score10

The third row is the sharpest cut. A committee-stage sitting can hold fifteen divisions while its speeches discuss forty-two numbered amendments, and the record does not say which amendment each division was. Those votes are counted here and deliberately left unscored rather than guessed.

Alignment against the whip

The same scorable votes, split by whether the member went with their party. The top-right cell is the one worth reading: a stated position reversed while following the party line.

Voted with own partyVoted against own party
Matched their words 9 0
Contradicted their words 1 0

Not scored: 101 where the vote could not be tied to a question, 0 where no clear position was stated in the debate.

Where the words and the vote diverge

Every case the pipeline flagged, with the contribution it read and the vote as recorded. Judge them yourself — that is the point of showing them rather than only the rate.

2024-02-28 · Community Safety and Investment: Motion [Private Members] · Question put: "That the motion, as amended, be agreed to." · Lost

Read as support (cue, confidence 0.85) · voted NIL · with their party

I thank my colleague, Senator Byrne, for sharing her time. I thank my colleagues in the Labour Party for putting down this very important motion. The speech from the Minister, Deputy McEntee, clearly laid out the priorities, investment and legislative programme the Government has pursued in respect of the justice portfolio and gardaí. A lot of impressive statistics have been provided. I welcome in particular the rece…

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Tone

Valence runs −1 (negative) to +1 (positive). This is a separate measure from alignment above and says nothing about how anyone voted — "the Minister has been asleep at the wheel" is strongly negative and carries no position on the question.

ModelSpeeches scored Mean valenceCorpus mean
vader1,155 +0.551 +0.423

Which policies move them

Mean tone by topic, most negative first. Topics come from an LDA model fitted over debate contributions; the terms are the model's, the labels are hand-assigned.

TopicSpeechesMean valence
Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy) agus · seo · leis · sin · atá · bhfuil 47 -0.041
Justice, policing and defence garda · defence · justice · violence · criminal · gardaí 10 +0.028
War, Ukraine, Israel and human rights international · ireland · ukraine · israel · war · irish 5 +0.231
Health scandals, inquiries and bereaved families hospital · families · family · cancer · children · did 34 +0.255
Legislation, courts and legal process act · legislation · shall · court · person · information 171 +0.391
Party-political exchange (party names dominate) workers · rights · right · sinn · féin · irish 5 +0.569
Covid-19 and public health emergency covid · health · public · pandemic · measures · safety 20 +0.596
Children, families and young people children · women · young · child · family · families 16 +0.617
Departmental programmes and funding (diffuse) department · national · funding · new · important · programme 89 +0.650
Health services, HSE and disability health · services · care · service · hse · mental 52 +0.668
Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content) important · like · good · debate · did · does 232 +0.686
Housing, rent and homelessness housing · homes · local · accommodation · rent · affordable 16 +0.695
Local government, roads and regional funding county · cork · discuss · west · road · local 34 +0.710
Education and schools school · education · schools · children · students · special 54 +0.722
Climate, agriculture, energy and water water · climate · farmers · energy · food · agriculture 49 +0.730
Transport, Dublin and rural development local · transport · dublin · city · public · community 111 +0.824
Cost of living, tax and budget cost · tax · budget · energy · costs · increase 25 +0.833
Employment, welfare schemes and business supports scheme · businesses · payment · sector · employment · insurance 56 +0.840
EU and international relations ireland · european · irish · union · europe · countries 23 +0.846
Media, banking and State companies ireland · irish · media · industry · companies · post 9 +0.871

Departures from their own baseline

Contributions whose tone sits more than two standard deviations from this member's own average. Baselines are per member on purpose — an absolute threshold would just rank people by temperament.

2023-11-29 · Recent Violence in Dublin City Centre: Motion · z = -3.1 · Justice, policing and defence
I move: That Seanad Éireann: abhors and condemns: - the attack on children and adults outside Gaelscoil Choláiste Mhuire; - any action that makes children, parents or teachers feel unsafe in a school environment; - violence of any kind against children; notes …

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2022-12-14 · Departmental Funding · z = -3.1 · Health services, HSE and disability
I thank the Cathaoirleach's office for choosing this Commencement matter. I agree with Senator Buttimer regarding the lack of availability of the line Ministers for Commencement debates in general. That said, I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy O'Donovan, …

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2020-09-25 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.1 · Cost of living, tax and budget
I ask the Deputy Leader to request the Minister, Deputy Darragh O'Brien, as Cabinet Minister responsible for local government, to come before the House to engage with Senators on local government funding. As we know, especially those of us who are former counc…

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2021-11-10 · Official Languages (Amendment) Bill 2019: Second Stage · z = -3.1 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Cuirim fáilte roimh an Aire Stáit, an Teachta Chambers, agus roimh an stiúrthóir Gaeilge sa Roinn, Dr. Aodhán Mac Cormaic. Tar éis próiseas fada sa Dáil agus sa roghchoiste, cuirim fáilte roimh an Dara Céim den Bhille seo sa Seanad inniu. Mar iarAire Stáit ar …

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2024-10-09 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.1 · Health services, HSE and disability
I welcome the €33 million package for cancer support in the recent budget announced by the Minister for Health, Deputy Donnelly. It includes €9.4 million for the continued implementation of the national cancer strategy, which we have discussed in the House, €1…

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2026-02-04 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -3.1 · Legislation, courts and legal process
The Order of Business is No. 1, statements on inland and marine fisheries, to be taken at 4.45 p.m. and to conclude at 6.15 p.m., with the opening remarks of the Minister not to exceed ten minutes, those of group spokespersons not to exceed eight minutes, thos…

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2021-11-24 · Official Languages (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage · z = -3.1 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Gabhaim buíochas as sin. Ní raibh mé ag súil go nglacfadh an tAire Stáit leis an leasú. Táim sásta é a tharraingt siar. Bhí mé ag iarraidh a chur isteach sa reachtaíocht go mbeadh daoine ann le taithí ag leibhéal sinsearach go leor ionas go mbeadh an tAire Stá…

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2021-11-24 · Official Languages (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage · z = -3.1 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Tairgim leasú Uimh. 25: I leathanach 25, líne 14, “gach 5 bliana tar éis an lae bunaithe” a scriosadh agus “bliain amháin tar éis an lae bunaithe agus gach 3 bliana ina dhiaidh sin” a chur ina ionad. Tá eolas fíorthábhachtach i gceist anseo i gcomhthéacs na ho…

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2024-06-19 · National Cancer Services: Motion · z = -3.1 · Health scandals, inquiries and bereaved families
I move: “That Seanad Éireann: notes: - the success of the National Cancer Strategies since their inception; - there are more people surviving cancer in Ireland than ever; - the importance of screening programmes such as BreastCheck and BowelScreen; - the succe…

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2026-02-25 · Seachtain na Gaeilge: Ráitis · z = -3.1 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Cuirim fáilte roimh an Aire chuig an Seanad chun na ráitis seo a thógáil. Aontaím leis an Seanadóir Mullen ar dtús báire go bhfuil tábhacht ar leith ag baint le tithíocht sa Ghaeltacht, ach freisin le hinfheistíocht sa Ghaeltacht ó thaobh infreastruchtúir. Lei…

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2024-03-06 · Seachtain na Gaeilge: Ráitis · z = -3.1 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Tá sé an-láidir i gConamara cinnte, nó in áiteanna i gConamara ar aon nós. Cuirim fáilte roimh an tAire Stáit, an Teachta O’Donovan, agus roimh an tAire, an Teachta Martin, freisin, atá díreach imithe. Tá sé fógartha i dtorthaí an daonáirimh in 2022 go bhfuil …

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2021-11-24 · Official Languages (Amendment) Bill 2019: Committee Stage · z = -3.0 · Irish-language contributions (sorted by language, not policy)
Tairgim leasú Uimh. 34: I leathanach 43, idir línte 22 agus 23, an méid seo a leanas a chur isteach: “(e) déanfaidh sé córas achomhairc a sholáthar, trí chomhaontú leis an Aire, chun a cheadú don phobal agóid a dhéanamh i gcoinne Logainm oifigiúil, mar a cinne…

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The whip, across the whole corpus

Alignment by the party a member sat for on the day, with 95% Wilson intervals. This is the test the measure could have failed.

PartyAligned95% CI n
PBP 82.5% 68–91% 40
LAB 78.2% 69–85% 101
IND 76.5% 72–81% 327
SF 75.8% 69–81% 198
SD 71.4% 58–82% 49
FG 69.1% 62–76% 162
FF 67.9% 60–75% 165
GP 56.8% 41–71% 37

Members of government parties align their stated position with their vote 9.4 points less often than Independents — bootstrap 95% CI [+2.7, +16.0], which excludes zero. Opposition parties sit 9.5 points above government too, CI [+3.1, +15.9]. Independents and opposition members are indistinguishable from each other (−0.0 points, CI [−6.3, +6.2]). So the gap does not come from having no party; it comes from being in government, which is what a whip effect should look like. Read this as the measure behaving sensibly, not as a finding about any individual.

How the scorer scores

Two automated methods were built and both failed. What survives is the rule-based layer, which is why the coverage above is narrow.

MethodAccuracy95% CI n
nli-vs-mover-anchor:deberta 35.9% 29–42% 234
nli-vs-mover-anchor:distilroberta 11.5% 8–16% 234

Zero-shot entailment was asked to judge contributions whose true position is known — the member moved the amendment, so the answer is support by construction — and got it right 11.5% of the time, returning "unclear" or "oppose" for nearly everything. A classifier trained on the rule-labelled cases over the corpus embeddings reached 71.1% against a 65.3% majority-class baseline: better than chance, not better enough. Both are excluded from every figure on this page. Only the rule-based cascade, which is exact where it fires and silent where it does not, is used.

Method

Position is read from the member's own contributions in the debate section the division belongs to, by a three-step cascade: an explicit move of the question ("I move amendment No. 5", true by construction); declarative stance phrases ordered so negations are tested first, because "I cannot support" and "I do not oppose" both defeat a naive keyword match; and, where neither fires, a zero-shot entailment model judging the contribution against the question put. Tone uses a separate model and is reported separately. Agreement against hand-labelled cases, with bootstrap intervals, is on the evidence page; no score here should be read without it.