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Tim Lombard

Experimental measure. Read the method before quoting a number.
This compares the position a member expressed in a debate with the way they voted in the division that debate produced. It is not a measure of honesty. A member who argues against a Bill and then votes against it scores as aligned; so does one who never departs from a party line they also argue for. Voting against your own stated view under a party whip is ordinary parliamentary behaviour, which is why the whip breakdown below sits next to the headline rather than underneath it. Full method and validation →
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only 2 scorable votes — below the 10 needed for an interval worth printing
100%
voted with their own party's majority · 330 votes

Why the denominator is small

The measure only exists where this member actually spoke in the debate their vote belongs to, and where that vote can be tied to a specific question. Both cuts are steep.

Votes cast330
… spoke in that debate section65
… vote tied to a specific question23
… position stated clearly enough to score2

The third row is the sharpest cut. A committee-stage sitting can hold fifteen divisions while its speeches discuss forty-two numbered amendments, and the record does not say which amendment each division was. Those votes are counted here and deliberately left unscored rather than guessed.

Alignment against the whip

The same scorable votes, split by whether the member went with their party. The top-right cell is the one worth reading: a stated position reversed while following the party line.

Voted with own partyVoted against own party
Matched their words 1 0
Contradicted their words 1 0

Not scored: 42 where the vote could not be tied to a question, 0 where no clear position was stated in the debate.

Where the words and the vote diverge

Every case the pipeline flagged, with the contribution it read and the vote as recorded. Judge them yourself — that is the point of showing them rather than only the rate.

2024-07-15 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · Question put: "That the Order of Business be agreed to" · Carried

Read as oppose (cue, confidence 0.90) · voted TA · with their party

I will start by thanking the Chair and the Leader of the House for their support over the last term. I thank the staff of the Seanad for their ability to work with this House in such a wonderful way. This afternoon, we heard significant debate on whether or not we should have the Minister for Justice, Deputy McEntee, brought before the House to discuss issues of law and order and the justice system itself. A debate o…

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Tone

Valence runs −1 (negative) to +1 (positive). This is a separate measure from alignment above and says nothing about how anyone voted — "the Minister has been asleep at the wheel" is strongly negative and carries no position on the question.

ModelSpeeches scored Mean valenceCorpus mean
vader456 +0.448 +0.423

Which policies move them

Mean tone by topic, most negative first. Topics come from an LDA model fitted over debate contributions; the terms are the model's, the labels are hand-assigned.

TopicSpeechesMean valence
Covid-19 and public health emergency covid · health · public · pandemic · measures · safety 17 +0.085
Housing, rent and homelessness housing · homes · local · accommodation · rent · affordable 13 +0.199
Health scandals, inquiries and bereaved families hospital · families · family · cancer · children · did 14 +0.252
Employment, welfare schemes and business supports scheme · businesses · payment · sector · employment · insurance 8 +0.266
Health services, HSE and disability health · services · care · service · hse · mental 27 +0.398
Legislation, courts and legal process act · legislation · shall · court · person · information 5 +0.414
Climate, agriculture, energy and water water · climate · farmers · energy · food · agriculture 59 +0.436
Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content) important · like · good · debate · did · does 216 +0.442
Transport, Dublin and rural development local · transport · dublin · city · public · community 39 +0.456
Media, banking and State companies ireland · irish · media · industry · companies · post 21 +0.488
Local government, roads and regional funding county · cork · discuss · west · road · local 53 +0.501
Education and schools school · education · schools · children · students · special 61 +0.569
Children, families and young people children · women · young · child · family · families 12 +0.656
Cost of living, tax and budget cost · tax · budget · energy · costs · increase 5 +0.729
EU and international relations ireland · european · irish · union · europe · countries 9 +0.729
Departmental programmes and funding (diffuse) department · national · funding · new · important · programme 35 +0.729
Justice, policing and defence garda · defence · justice · violence · criminal · gardaí 7 +0.854

Departures from their own baseline

Contributions whose tone sits more than two standard deviations from this member's own average. Baselines are per member on purpose — an absolute threshold would just rank people by temperament.

2021-05-25 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -2.5 · Climate, agriculture, energy and water
Due to a heavy rainfall this month, May 2021 will be recorded as being the wettest May ever. The rainfall has had knock-on effects on the agricultural community because, traditionally, ten or 11 days of silage cutting would have been completed. As there is now…

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2022-04-07 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -2.5 · Covid-19 and public health emergency
I raise the Ukrainian crisis and where we stand in respect of that dilemma. We are 40-plus days into the war and thousands of refugees have come to Ireland. On Tuesday last, 42 refugees turned up in Clonakilty, where there was no accommodation, after leaving D…

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2020-12-03 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -2.4 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I want to speak about the current crisis in the local media sector. We all have local radio stations and publications based in our parishes. The pressure that they have been put under due to Covid-19 is immense. This is more of a rural issue than an urban one …

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2024-02-08 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -2.4 · Local government, roads and regional funding
A small village in south Cork, Ballinspittle, was badly flooded at 5 o'clock this morning. A torrent of rain came down through the valley and washed out businesses such as restaurants and pubs, while several residential properties were badly damaged. This is h…

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2023-12-06 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -2.4 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I thank the Chair. It is wonderful to have the opportunity to have three minutes to speak in the Chamber. I want to raise the issue of the knackeries and where matters stand at the moment. We have a significant issue in Ireland whereby there is a dispute betwe…

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2022-11-09 · National Transport Authority · z = -2.4 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
There is a budget of €35 billion, and the officials from the NTA will not meet us. They will not respond to the email even after eight months. They say they do not have the staff or the budget to meet us. That is with a budget of €35 billion. This is a quango …

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2024-06-18 · Business Supports · z = -2.4 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I am absolutely shocked by the figures the Minister has presented. If I am reading them correctly, 1,029 grants have actually been paid, to the value of roughly €2 million, and there are potentially 5,000 grants remaining to be paid. If we are dealing with a s…

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2023-09-26 · School Transport · z = -2.4 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I will be brief. With regard to the temporary alleviation measures, Bus Éireann is breaking the Department's rules or else the rules have not been made clear. We do not know where that figure is and when concessionary is then tied into it a complete confusion …

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2020-07-07 · An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business · z = -2.4 · Climate, agriculture, energy and water
I congratulate the Chairman on his elevation. I did not have the opportunity to do that last week, and I am sure he will do a fantastic job. I raise an issue that has been raised many times in this House in recent years, which is farm safety. It is one of the …

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2021-11-25 · Disability Services · z = -2.3 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I thank the Minister of State for his response. I do not think that the people in Bandon who are watching this debate will get much joy from the statement. There is a need for urgency regarding this issue. The Ombudsman's report was published in the last few w…

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2022-10-11 · Legislative Programme · z = -2.3 · Procedural and rhetorical filler (low-content)
I thank the Minister of State. To say I am disappointed is an understatement. It is almost verbatim word for word of what I heard from the Minister of State, Deputy Butler, 11 months ago on this issue. On that occasion she told me the Bill would be published b…

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2021-11-25 · Disability Services · z = -2.3 · Health scandals, inquiries and bereaved families
I welcome the Minister of State to the Chamber. I tabled this matter looking for the Minister of State with responsibility for disability to make a statement on the lack of access and supports for personalised transportation for disability drivers. This scheme…

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The whip, across the whole corpus

Alignment by the party a member sat for on the day, with 95% Wilson intervals. This is the test the measure could have failed.

PartyAligned95% CI n
PBP 82.5% 68–91% 40
LAB 78.2% 69–85% 101
IND 76.5% 72–81% 327
SF 75.8% 69–81% 198
SD 71.4% 58–82% 49
FG 69.1% 62–76% 162
FF 67.9% 60–75% 165
GP 56.8% 41–71% 37

Members of government parties align their stated position with their vote 9.4 points less often than Independents — bootstrap 95% CI [+2.7, +16.0], which excludes zero. Opposition parties sit 9.5 points above government too, CI [+3.1, +15.9]. Independents and opposition members are indistinguishable from each other (−0.0 points, CI [−6.3, +6.2]). So the gap does not come from having no party; it comes from being in government, which is what a whip effect should look like. Read this as the measure behaving sensibly, not as a finding about any individual.

How the scorer scores

Two automated methods were built and both failed. What survives is the rule-based layer, which is why the coverage above is narrow.

MethodAccuracy95% CI n
nli-vs-mover-anchor:deberta 35.9% 29–42% 234
nli-vs-mover-anchor:distilroberta 11.5% 8–16% 234

Zero-shot entailment was asked to judge contributions whose true position is known — the member moved the amendment, so the answer is support by construction — and got it right 11.5% of the time, returning "unclear" or "oppose" for nearly everything. A classifier trained on the rule-labelled cases over the corpus embeddings reached 71.1% against a 65.3% majority-class baseline: better than chance, not better enough. Both are excluded from every figure on this page. Only the rule-based cascade, which is exact where it fires and silent where it does not, is used.

Method

Position is read from the member's own contributions in the debate section the division belongs to, by a three-step cascade: an explicit move of the question ("I move amendment No. 5", true by construction); declarative stance phrases ordered so negations are tested first, because "I cannot support" and "I do not oppose" both defeat a naive keyword match; and, where neither fires, a zero-shot entailment model judging the contribution against the question put. Tone uses a separate model and is reported separately. Agreement against hand-labelled cases, with bootstrap intervals, is on the evidence page; no score here should be read without it.