It must be relevant to the amendment.

Are there any further Members? If it is relevant, Deputy Ó Súilleabháin.

It is not relevant, Deputy, because deportation is not mentioned in the amendment.

I am afraid it is not. It is not relevant to this amendment.

It may be relevant to the other amendments but we are sticking to the amendments. I call Deputy Gannon.

Amendment No. 6 has been ruled out of order.

It has been explained, Deputy. It carries a potential charge on revenue and unless he can dispel that, I am afraid it is out of order.

I will read the note for the Deputy. It states: "Amendment No. 6 would insert a new definition for legal counselling, a term used later in the Bill, but this definition would provide that such services be provided to persons without charge to the applicant, irrespective of a person's ability to secure legal services by their own means." Unfortunately, that is where the money message comes in. It has been checked.

The reason that amendment No. 6 is ruled out of order is that at paragraph (c), it states, "without charge to the applicant". Amendment No. 7 is somewhat more nuanced or ambiguous.

Relevance, Deputy.

I will clarify again the reasoning behind the ruling out of order of Deputy Gannon's amendment. Deputy Kelly clearly did not get that part (c) of Deputy Gannon's-----

No, I think it is important for-----

No, I am explaining because Deputy Kelly said that he cannot understand.

For the benefit of new Members, Deputy Gannon's amendment expressly states "without charge to the applicant", which means that it creates a money message.

We can get to that, absolutely. I have explained the reason. There is no such expression in amendment No. 7, in the name of Deputy Carthy.

Does the Minister wish to respond?

Amendment No. 9 in the name of Deputy Alan Kelly has been ruled out of order.

I am just about to read the reason. I thank the Deputy. Amendment No. 9 would insert a new definition for "legal counselling", a term used later in the Bill. This definition would provide that such services would be provided to persons free of charge irrespective of a person's ability to secure legal services by their own means. Amendment No. 47 in the name of Deputy Kelly forms a composite proposal with amendment No. 9, inserting a reference to these "legal counselling" services into section 26 of the Bill. Such "…

The Deputy will accept, however, that the Bills Office must operate under Standing Orders.

I thank the Deputy.