I want to raise again the debate, and the great concern expressed, about childcare places and the challenges around the provision of public childcare facilities versus private childcare facilities. I really stand here today to commend and salute the Minister for children, Norma Foley, who yesterday confirmed that €135 million would be made available for State-led childcare services. That is just the beginning, but I like the ambition of what the Minister is setting out. Her own statement says that this funding is b…

I will be very brief because Senator Black has covered it pretty well. The Mental Health Commission annual report has just been handed to me. The Mental Health Commission gives constant reminders in relation to human rights. The commission emphasises that human rights have to underpin our approach in everything we do and the services we provide and are obliged to regulate. All of us must not lose sight of that because that is critically important. It is not what is better for someone over that. At no cost can we co…

Apologies for coming in at the end of the Minister of State's contribution. I believe I am right in saying that she will be banning the use of ECT on children. That is an important measure. We will discuss sections 84 and 91 later and we will talk again about ECT because some of these issues overlap. The matter of safeguarding in relation to the use of restrictive practices on children is very concerning, so I am glad to hear the proposal made by the Minister of State. This debate has given me another opportunity t…

I thank the Minister of State. I think she herself would admit that this is quite complex to get our heads around. I appreciate that. Just following on, as the Minister of State has said, this is an important section in the Bill and this is a series of really important amendments. A question has arisen, and I have tried to seek clarification on this myself but I am having some difficulty in it. Perhaps the Minister of State is not fully in a position to do so today but this section or element is not going to hinge …

Yes I will say it out again. Will the Minister of State briefly outline any differences in treatment between children under an emergency care order, an interim care order, a supervision order or a voluntary care arrangement? The Minister of State covered some of them in her speech. Perhaps not now, but maybe we could have a memo back before we meet again. I know that is complex. I did try to get a handle on it and I could not. Perhaps the Minister of State would drop it to us before the next debate. We can discuss …

That is great. I want to be able to fully comprehend the subtle differences of all that. The Minister of State might take me through it slowly, A, B and C and 1,2,3, because this is quite complex.

That is part of it.

For clarity, we are talking about an emergency order, an interim care order, a supervision order and a voluntary care arrangement. They are all covered in the Bill and the same treatment applies. The Minister might just clarify again the reporting back mechanisms.

I thank the Minister of State.

If I may come in, I will not repeat the same things I have been saying for the last three sessions. I have been asked to say this and people have raised it with me in a meeting earlier today. Due to the unavailability of CAMHS beds, which is a reality, children and young people in crisis may be left with the unacceptable choice of an adult inpatient unit. I am hearing that loud and clear. It is regrettable. It is the reality on the ground. That is what the Mental Health Commission and the public psychiatric service…

I was listening to Senators Ryan and Costello and the Minister of State. A spokesperson for the Mental Health Commission stated that the admission of a child or young person to an adult setting is "not acceptable and risks traumatising the young person further". That is from the Mental Health Commission. That is not me. I so happen to agree with it, and I think that is important. That is important to put on the record in terms of its work. I to acknowledge its significant work. Yes, there are shortcomings with it t…

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That is what it said.

I am not going to take the whole evening. It said that. It is on record as saying that. I do not want to be fighting with it or with anyone. That is important. We have to accept that it said that.

We have to accept that.

I thank the Minister for coming to the House this morning. It is it is greatly appreciated by Members.

I thank the Minister of State, Deputy Dooley, for coming to the House to take this matter, which relates to the participation framework in the defence procurement process. Senator Ahearn has four minutes to set out his stall.

I propose that we suspend as the Minister of State, Deputy Buttimer, is in the Dáil. Is that agreed? Agreed.

I thank the Minister of State, who will be here for the next two Commencement matters.

I thank Senator Ryan and call Senator Buttimer. Sorry, I call the Minister of State, Deputy Buttimer.