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Dail Éireann · 2022-09-20

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EU Regulations

IND Michael Fitzmaurice · Roscommon-Galway

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Q58 IND Michael Fitzmaurice to the Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications

58. Deputy Michael Fitzmaurice asked the Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications if he will oppose the proposed European Union regulation on land and peat restoration with reference to the biodiversity strategy and climate strategy as part of the European Union Council of Ministers, given that the consequences for Irish farming will be detrimental if this regulation is left in its present form (details supplied); and if he will make a statement on the matter. [45814/22]

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This question concerns COM (2022) 304, to ask the Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications if he will oppose the proposed European Union regulation on land and peat restoration with reference to the biodiversity strategy and climate strategy as part of the European Union Council of Ministers, given that the consequences for Irish farming will be detrimental if this regulation is left in its present form. The EU nature restoration law, as proposed, seeks to repair European habitats that are in poor condition and bring back nature to all ecosystems.

The aim is for nature restoration measures to apply to a proportion of the EU's land and sea areas by 2030 and to eventually extend these measures to all ecosystems in need of restoration by 2050. The proposed EU nature restoration law will have implications for all land users in Ireland.

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IND Michael Fitzmaurice

This question concerns COM (2022) 304, to ask the Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications if he will oppose the proposed European Union regulation on land and peat restoration with reference to the biodiversity strategy and climate strategy as part of the European Union Council of Ministers, given that the consequences for Irish farming will be detrimental if this regulation is left in its present form.

GP Eamon Ryan

The EU nature restoration law, as proposed, seeks to repair European habitats that are in poor condition and bring back nature to all ecosystems. The aim is for nature restoration measures to apply to a proportion of the EU's land and sea areas by 2030 and to eventually extend these measures to all ecosystems in need of restoration by 2050. In addition, there are proposals from the EU Commission to reduce the use and risk of chemical pesticides and a new soil health law to significantly improve the state of soils and protect soils on the same legal basis as air and water. In combination, it is envisaged that these flagship legislative proposals will help ensure the sustainability, resilience and security of food supply in the EU.

While the proposed EU nature restoration law is being negotiated there are measures, such as a voluntary eco-scheme, set out in the CAP strategic plan. It is anticipated that it will be a key action in the delivery objectives of the nature restoration law. The proposed EU nature restoration law will have implications for all land users in Ireland. These will be taken into consideration as part of the second phase of the land use review, due for completion in 18 months' time.

The national implementation of the proposed EU nature restoration law will require a whole-of-government approach, and we will continue to work closely with our colleagues in the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage who are leading on this issue.

To answer, if I can, the question as to whether I will oppose the proposed Union regulation, I met the Commissioner, Mr. Sinkevičius, when I visited Brussels the week before last and we discussed this very issue. I am supportive of what he and the Commission are looking to do. I believe it will be to the benefit of nature restoration in Ireland but also to the development of rural Ireland and to our cities.

Part of the plan and the proposals is that we green our cities as well as our country areas. This law and the measures that would help deliver that have a real, long-term benefit for our people. As a result, I said to Commissioner Sinkevičius that I would be supportive of his work.

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

If the Minister supports the regulation in its present form, he will be a traitor to the people in rural Ireland. That is the fact. What has been proposed would make Cromwell blush when compared with what he tried to do to Ireland. The Minister used the word "voluntary". This is bringing into law a regulation that will affect people with land containing peaty soils. The Minister should go down to Kerry, where most of the cows for the dairy sector are reared, to the west, to the north west and out to the midlands, where land has been reclaimed for years and where families make a living. Whoever will be in government can listen to these words very carefully. Whether the Government signs off on this, whether it supports it with the EU or whether it wants to be a lackey for the EU, we in rural Ireland will stand against this and fight it. No EU diktat and no Government Minister in Dublin will decide our private property rights, decide how we will farm our land or take us off land that we have drained, looked after and reared families on down through the years.

GP Eamon Ryan

I was down in Kerry last week, as it happens.

IND Michael Fitzmaurice this contribution

The Minister could have a look at Listowel. Where are the cows reared around Listowel?

GP Eamon Ryan

I was in west Clare the previous weekend.

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

Yes, and where are the cows?

GP Eamon Ryan

I will be heading back out west again this weekend. One thing I believe to be absolutely true is that it is in all our interests to stop the destruction of the natural world which has occurred over the past 50 or 60 years - within our lifetimes.

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

I am talking about land that is reclaimed, that cattle are on.

GP Eamon Ryan

We are not disconnected from the natural systems. If we lose them, we will not be able to restore them easily. We need to protect our water, our soil, our air quality and our land and the ecosystems within them. That is good in the long run for farming, forestry, tourism and so many other industries that bring wealth and prosperity to our country. We will work collaboratively and collectively on that. Obviously, it will not work if it is someone telling someone else what to do and how.

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

And what does the regulation do?

GP Eamon Ryan

However, ignoring the biodiversity crisis and ignoring the destruction and loss of the natural world that has occurred in the past 50 years serves no one's interests. We have to look forward, restore nature and ensure that we maintain our prosperity in that manner.

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

The Minister talked about forestry. It is a good job there might be someone in the EU who will stand up for their citizens. Sweden and Finland are to oppose the regulation, just so the Minister knows. He talks about the past 50 years. Over the past 50 years the EU has given grants to these farmers to shore their land and to make a living on marginal farms. Is the Minister the person who is going to support an EU diktat from unelected representatives trying to bring in a regulation? He talked about working with people. A regulation does not work with people. A regulation seeks to bring something into law. This regulation will not be accepted, just so the Minister knows. He is hearing it loud and clear here. From the top of Donegal to the bottom of Kerry and out as far as Cork and the midlands, he will destroy family farms if, by 2050, the plan is that the Government will rewet the ground that these farmers have spent years trying to farm all their life. The regulation will not be accepted, whoever is in government. I am telling the Minister that clearly.

GP Eamon Ryan

It will be accepted if we provide an income-----

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

It will not be accepted.

CC Marc Ó Cathasaigh

We will hear the Minister's answer.

GP Eamon Ryan

If I may make my point, it will be accepted if we can, in restoring nature, provide an income-----

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

Do not talk bullshit.

CC Marc Ó Cathasaigh

Deputy, please.

GP Eamon Ryan

-----to a new generation of farmers, foresters and people to look after the natural world. That will be a far more secure, a far more profitable and a far more prosperous future.

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

Stop, will you? For Jesus's sake, will you just leave it?

GP Eamon Ryan

That is absolutely achievable. It will not work-----

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

So you are going to tell families, "Forget about farming. Leave the area."

CC Marc Ó Cathasaigh

Deputy-----

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

Do you want to have it so that Leinster and Munster will have the farming and the rest will not?

CC Marc Ó Cathasaigh

I ask you to hear the Minister's response, Deputy Fitzmaurice.

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

I am sick of listening to him.

GP Eamon Ryan

I have just as much an interest in the prosperity and the future of the Irish family farm-----

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

You want to rewet all their land.

CC Marc Ó Cathasaigh

Thank you, Deputy Fitzmaurice.

GP Eamon Ryan

That is absolutely connected to protection and management of that land.

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

The sooner we have an election and have the likes of you gone, the better.

GP Eamon Ryan

We will need people, young and old, who see that the care of their environment and of their local area is central to what they do. That aspiration and that instinct belongs to everyone. It does not belong to any single party one way or the other, but we will not-----

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

We are a sovereign people who have property rights and we will protect them. We have done it before and we will do it again.

CC Marc Ó Cathasaigh

Deputy Fitzmaurice, please.

GP Eamon Ryan

We have to work now to find a mechanism whereby we can do this in a way-----

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

There will be no mechanism of flooding people's land.

GP Eamon Ryan

-----that guarantees the future of the family farm, and that is what we will work towards with the European Union.

IND Michael Fitzmaurice

The European Union is no friend of ours.