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Dail Éireann · 2023-05-04

Part of Priority Questions

Public Transport

IND Michael Healy-Rae · Kerry

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Q3 SF Martin Kenny to the Minister for Transport

3. Deputy Martin Kenny asked the Minister for Transport if he will provide an update on safety measures for staff and passengers on board public transport. [20790/23]

Summary of this debate

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For some time, in my previous role, I called for the establishment of a Garda transport division to protect people on public transport and the staff who run it. It is a very serious issue of safety in our public transport network, as the Deputy said. Safety and security on public transport are matters that first and foremost must be managed by public transport operators in conjunction with An Garda Síochána, where appropriate.

I fully support this work and the ongoing positive engagement between An Garda Síochána and the various public transport operators regarding issues of safety on public transport. It will strengthen the links between An Garda Síochána and public transport operators and allow An Garda Síochána to respond more quickly to any issues that may arise.

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The full debate

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SF Martin Kenny

I wish to hear the Minister of State's views regarding safety measures, particularly for passengers and staff using public transport. For some time, in my previous role, I called for the establishment of a Garda transport division to protect people on public transport and the staff who run it. In many cases, there have been serious incidents of what is sometimes described as antisocial behaviour but goes well beyond that. It is thuggery and abuse. People have been attacked while using public transport. This means people are hesitant, particularly late in the evening, to use these services. If we want a public transport system that is going to work, it must be affordable, reliable and safe.

FF Jack Chambers

I thank the Deputy for his question. I am aware of the importance of this matter and the concern in Dublin and in other locations. It is a very serious issue of safety in our public transport network, as the Deputy said. I fully recognise that those who regularly use and work in our public transport network are most directly impacted by any safety or security incidents. Safety and security on public transport are matters that first and foremost must be managed by public transport operators in conjunction with An Garda Síochána, where appropriate. Nonetheless, both the Department and the National Transport Authority, NTA, engage regularly with operators on the issue of safety. The NTA has established a working group on antisocial behaviour, which meets monthly to share information and best practices.

Separately, under the national sustainable mobility policy, my Department has committed to publishing an annual public transport passenger safety and personal security report with the NTA.

Each of the operators has introduced a number of initiatives in recent years to help to combat the issue. For example, there has been an increase of more than 50% in spending on rail security in recent years, from €3.7 million in 2016 to a preliminary spend of €6.3 million in 2023. The entire Dublin Bus fleet is fully fitted with CCTV cameras and radios for immediate contact to a central control centre. An Garda Síochána is conducting more patrols in areas experiencing particular safety and security issues and has deployed undercover gardaí to assist with this. I fully support this work and the ongoing positive engagement between An Garda Síochána and the various public transport operators regarding issues of safety on public transport.

I am also pleased to report that following close collaboration between Dublin Bus, An Garda Síochána and various representative groups, Dublin Bus resumed full services to the west Tallaght area last Sunday, these services having been curtailed in recent months due to totally unacceptable antisocial behaviour. The combined interventions implemented to date across the network have helped to tackle some of the antisocial behaviour. However, I fully acknowledge that more work needs to be done.

IND Michael Healy-Rae this contribution

-----and I will tell the Minister of State why. First, look at the folly of what is going on in Foynes, where we have mulch coming in from Brazil. There are thousands of tonnes of it and it must be transported up through the country to replace the peat we were producing ourselves. The Minister of State may shake his head because he is ashamed of that fact, which has made a lot of headlines in the last couple of days. I put down parliamentary questions on it and this is not the first ship that has come in. Of course, the Government will take every way it can to try to sweep that under the carpet and deny it is happening, but it is happening.

FF Jack Chambers

We are fully committed to continuing to work with all stakeholders to ensure the safest possible environment for passengers and all employees providing vital public transport services. I welcome that in recent weeks the Garda transport hub has been announced and will be in operation in the National Train Control Centre at Heuston Station this Friday, 5 May 2023. This will allow An Garda Síochána to have oversight of all public transport networks, including trains, buses and trams. It will strengthen the links between An Garda Síochána and public transport operators and allow An Garda Síochána to respond more quickly to any issues that may arise. I have also been informed that it is expected a similar centre will be opened in Connolly Station. Having a strong collaboration between public transport operators and An Garda Síochána and strengthening the presence of An Garda Síochána will support all our combined efforts in trying to ensure we have safer public transport.

SF Martin Kenny

Another aspect of this is the retention of staff. It is a problem. There is a shortage of drivers across the country and across the world, especially for public transport utilities. The issue for many is that they do not particularly want to drive a bus, tram, Luas or whatever where they will be attacked or abused by people on a regular basis. Alternative employment is available to them. We must ensure people are kept safe. There are issues with other aspects of employment law in that respect. There is a race to the bottom with regard to the privatisation of services. However, one of the key things is the issue of safety and security and ensuring people feel safe when they go to work. We have a situation in Dublin and in other parts of the country where young people leaving work late in the evening have no option for travelling home. They have no way to get back to where they live. They end up walking the streets and it is dangerous. If there is a bus service, they are afraid to use it. We must change that.

CC Catherine Connolly

I wish to advise the House of the following matters in respect of which notice has been given under Standing Order 37 and the name of the Member in each case:

Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh - to discuss the problem of rodents infesting neighbouring homes where the private residence from which the issue stems is owned by someone with underlying mental issues or is in poverty.

Deputy Martin Browne - to discuss the future development of the community nursing unit at St. Patrick's Hospital, Cashel.

Deputy Violet-Anne Wynne - to discuss energy allowances in the household benefits package.

Deputy Aindrias Moynihan - to discuss the need to advance a wastewater treatment plant at Crossbarry, County Cork.

Deputy Louise O'Reilly - to discuss children's disability network team, CDNT, waiting lists in Balbriggan.

Deputy Danny Healy-Rae - to discuss waiving the connection fee to the new sewerage scheme in Kilcummin, County Kerry.

Deputy Pádraig O'Sullivan - to discuss plans to address staffing shortages in the home support sector.

Deputy Pat Buckley - to discuss the need for improvements to the processing of protected disclosures in light of injuries suffered recently at a Stryker facility in Cork.

Deputy Bríd Smith - to discuss childcare costs in light of moves by a private firm to raise costs.

Deputy Pauline Tully - to discuss the severe shortage of childcare provision in Cavan.

Deputy David Stanton - to discuss the need to provide transport assistance for young people with intellectual disabilities travelling to workshops or training centres post second-level education.

Deputy Thomas Gould - to discuss the delay in the sale and allocation of homes delivered in 2022.

Deputy Mattie McGrath - to discuss St. Patrick's Hospital, Cashel, and challenges regarding parking spaces.

Deputy Alan Dillon - to discuss the supply of public water to rural areas of County Mayo.

Deputy Jackie Cahill - to discuss the illegal sale of coal and other solid fuels in the Twenty-six Counties which are imported from the North.

The matters raised by Deputies Martin Browne, Aindrias Moynihan, David Stanton and Violet-Anne Wynne have been selected for discussion.