Thank you, Senator. Before I call Senator Craughwell, I remind Senators that we are on amendments Nos. 9 to 11 inclusive, with amendment No. 10 consequential to amendment No. 9. There was a bit of confusion before I took the Chair. For clarity and the information of Members, please note that the House, by agreeing to motions to recommit, allows Committee Stage-style of discussion on section 11. That means Members may speak more than once on section 11 and the amendments do not need to be seconded. Essentially, from…

I remind the Senator that we are speaking on amendment Nos. 9 to 11, inclusive, rather than amendment No. 12. Before I bring in Senator Craughwell------

Amendment No. 12 is also in the name of Senator Mullen-----

-----but we are not on that. We are on amendment Nos. 9 to 11, inclusive.

I understand. I am just reminding the Senator that amendment No. 12 is on the way. Before I bring in Senator Craughwell, I welcome to the Public Gallery guests of Deputies Malcolm Byrne and Roderic O'Gorman and the Minister, Deputy Hildegarde Naughton. They are very welcome to the Chamber today. I hope they are enjoying their visit to Leinster House.

Amendments Nos. 12 to 14, inclusive, are related. Amendment No. 13 is a physical alternative to amendment No. 12. Amendments Nos. 12 to 14, inclusive, may be discussed together by agreement. Is that agreed? Agreed.

I support the Minister of State in how she outlined her concerns. While I agree that there is a stigma attached to it, many organisations, including Shine and SeaChange, have done a lot of good work in trying to break that stigma in mental health. Most of the contributions on this amendment have been about the most vulnerable, and people who are suffering from mental health conditions are vulnerable. When the Minister of State speaks about the possibility of other people being vulnerable, we are talking about are c…

Before I ask the Minister of State to respond, I welcome representatives from the British Irish Chamber of Commerce, who are guests of our former colleague and now Deputy, Malcolm Byrne.

Does Senator Boyhan wish to press the amendment?

Amendments Nos. 56, 68, 105 to 107, inclusive, and 112 are related and will be discussed together by agreement. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Absolutely.

I second the amendment. The Minister of State is very welcome to the Chamber. I also welcome Councillor Joe Malone. I thank him for the work he is doing, along with his colleagues in LAMA, which represents councillors right across the country. I listened to the contributions at the start from Senators Black and Flynn. They had 16 minutes to speak and, in the space of that 16 minutes, they gave no acknowledgement or recognition of what has been done in the last number of years. Amazingly, as well as giving no recogn…

-----they know-----

Perhaps because they were not councillors themselves, they are not aware of this.

The Senator brings in Councillor Joe Malone----

-----but then claims that councillors did not get any pay when his organisation was fighting hard to get an increase in pay for councillors.

For her own benefit I will not give way to Senator Flynn because the information is incorrect. Just so you know-----

I became a councillor in 2019, six year ago-----

----- and I was paid €17,000 a year. As of 1 August this year, councillors are paid €31,000.

That is an increase-----